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submitted 9 hours ago by Blaze@lemmy.zip to c/privacy@lemmy.dbzer0.com

andy1011000 Proton CEO posted:

“People honestly seem to forget that I live in Switzerland, where Republican/Democrat doesn’t mean anything, and Trump isn’t even on our ballot to be voted for…”

Onyx376. replied:

“The point is that fighting for a more just and equal society is not just about fighting for the fundamental right to privacy but also for all other fundamental rights, including individual rights and life. When you, as the CEO of a company that starts from these principles, nod positively to whatever action a political figure like Trump, who is known for always flagrantly putting his private interests ahead of those of his own nation, makes speeches about eliminating minorities, hurting their rights as citizens and flirting with Nazi movements, it is understandable that members of the privacy community are disappointed as this reveals a little about who is being the face of a company that should follow contrary principles. But now we really know what “freedom” means to you.”

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[-] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 68 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

People honestly seem to forget that I live in Switzerland, where Republican/Democrat doesn’t mean anything

Yeah but Nazism does mean something in Switzerland. Nobody forgot that the Swiss weren't that uncomfortable working with the Nazis.

"I live in Switzerland" isn't a great defense when you're accused of licking an American fascist's boots.

[-] fxomt@lemm.ee 35 points 8 hours ago

I'm feeling very conflicted on this overall. I love proton and I'm not even American, but this whole fiasco is making me think of moving.

They handled this very unprofessionally, and I'm not sure if I'm comfortable trusting them anymore.

Can anyone recommend me some alternatives for some proton software?

[-] ddash@lemmy.dbzer0.com -5 points 8 hours ago

While I get the sentiment, what could possibly happen to Proton that makes it unsafe and you wouldn't know? We already known they do comply with the law and hand over basic information.

But they do not give access or decrypt the actual content of your mailbox and that's not because they choose not to but because it is technically not possible, or am I wrong about that. If the plan to change that it would hopefully become obvious through some announcements.

[-] fxomt@lemm.ee 32 points 8 hours ago

It's moreso the trust factor for me. Proton is secure, I know; but the company behind it has been making many bad decisions lately.

They were extremely unprofessional dealing with this. I mean, who comments their own political views on a company account then doubles down??? That's just stupid to me.

I should have specified that I might not even switch off of proton, I'd like to know alternatives JIC shit hits the fan :(

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 points 1 hour ago

The security vulnerability behind any decent VPN is the VPN provider. When they're signalling support of fascists and technocrats you need to move on because their mask slipped and their real motives have been exposed. The sheer gall it takes to pretend you can believe Trump supports privacy goals is laughable.

The question is really who is an actual alternative.

[-] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 11 points 7 hours ago

Same. After the whole AI fiasco and the crypto fiasco, this is just adding insult to injury.

[-] atro_city@fedia.io 3 points 5 hours ago

Oh shit, what did I miss?

[-] ddash@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 8 hours ago

Agree, always good to be prepared

[-] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 26 points 8 hours ago

I just signed up with proton and was strongly considering moving my Gmail account to their services. But this thing with their CEO is giving me great pause.

I guess it goes to show that no matter what, all ceos/rich people are simply out of touch and cannot be trusted. It is greatly disappointing.

[-] fraksken@infosec.pub 5 points 7 hours ago

I'm out of the loop. What happened?

[-] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 27 points 7 hours ago

Proton CEO turns out to be a far right nut that has a hard on for Trump and everyone that's paying for privacy (AKA their entire customer base) is pretty allergic to authoritarians.

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