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The Ceasefire Charade (chrishedges.substack.com)
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[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

i truly hope trump's ceasefire deal holds; there's been too much violence and death and it needs to stop.

i also wish i didn't need to call it trump's ceasefire since its success would make it starkly clear how far in the wrong the democrats were when they insisted on enabling the genocide despite their words to the contrary.

democrats use "both sides" as bad faith argument to stop discourse; but with a genocide enabling mark in their column: it does A LOT to even out the karmic scales with republican ghoulishness.

[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I mean, and this is the tiniest goddamn scrap of credit they could possibly muster at the fuckin last minute, but wasn’t this the current admin’s work? The incoming trump admin can’t negotiate yet because they’re not in office

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

the qatari prime minister literally thanked trump's emissary, witkoff, by name for being the deciding factor when he anounced the deal of the cease fire on wednesday.

i don't doubt that the biden's administration did a lot of the work; but it was trump's emissary that knocked the ball over the net where the biden administration couldn't/wouldn't for the last year and a half. i too see the western legacy and social media lol @ trump for taking credit for it. look it up on non-western sources like al jazeera for yourself since all of the other americans won't.

[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Funny enough the Al Jazeera article is where I double checked that I wasn’t mistaken. It’s all mention of the current admin’s involvement. I would very much assume that any praise being heaped on trumps shoulders is just the beginning of the forthcoming wave of ego stroking in order to take advantage of his vanity and desperate need for praise.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

that article doesn't even identify the biden administration's role beyond making announcements about the ceasefire plan.

still, though, it's fascinating that it's not showing it you because i just did simple search on google news for "trump" and "ceasefire" and it immediately showed me these articles/video that say the same thing i did in my previous comments:

video: https://www.aljazeera.com/program/newsfeed/2025/1/16/who-is-steve-witkoff-trumps-envoy-in-the-gaza-ceasefire-talks#flips-6367189569112:0

article: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/1/17/trumps-role-in-gaza-ceasefire-fuels-arab-american-anger-with-biden

even politico agrees: https://www.politico.eu/article/trump-was-the-closer-on-the-gaza-deal/

how do you get your news? what search terms did you use and where?

[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago

I searched DDG for Israel ceasefire. Interesting. I appreciate the info

[–] adachika192@hcommons.social 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

@eldavi @TheFriar

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According to https://journa.host/@w7voa/113833951170679183 f., Pr. Biden himself admits that both -present and incoming- admin people played certain roles.

"For the past few days we have been speaking as one team … I told my team to coordinate closely with the incoming team so that we're all speaking with the same voice."

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago

I don't think that there's any doubt that the Biden administration played a role; infact the plan that they pushed back in the spring is same one that got adopted.

The key take away is that the Biden administration was stuck for the last year and half and Trump's emissary ended up being the MVP that tipped the ball over the net; wo Trump's involvement there would be no ceasefire.

[–] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

As the incoming admin (and previous) Trump was able to use soft power to pressure Israel to agree to the ceasefire. The Biden admin has had at least the same, but in all likelihood much more, soft power throughout this entire process and failed to apply any genuine pressure on Israel. So much so that Israel refused the deal the US put forth as Israel's ceasefire deal and instead broke every 'red line' with no pushback.

The Biden admin has been 100% complicit in facilitating this genocide, both in supplying arms and international support. Not to say that Trump is any friend of Palestine. The Abraham Accords were completely disasterous for Palestinian emancipation and greatly emboldened Israel's Settler-Colonial ambitions

[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 2 points 2 weeks ago

I’m 100% on board with everything you’ve said. I was just saying people in the thread were saying “I hate we have to call this trumps ceasefire deal.” I was just pointing out that is incorrect.

[–] FarraigePlaisteach@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

USA deserve no credit for a ceasefire to a massacre they’ve pumped billions of $ worth of weapons into.