IT workers aren't "Tech Bros". Real Tech Bros are usually people with zero knowledge trying to profit from IT workers. They use them to build their scams.
this post was submitted on 01 Jan 2025
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Just to add to your point, statistically tech workers are disproportionately democrat voters. I'm not sure about higher ups, but it would surprise me if they were disproportionately pro-trump
Not on H1B they not.
(as they can't even vote)
I wouldn't be surprised if they flipped when the money started rolling in. My guess is:
Democrat -> "Independent" Libertarian voting Republican -> "Fiscally conservative" Republican
There is already a strong "I did this on my own" and "i make enough money to not need a union" sentiment in IT as an industry. Plenty of people that are "experts in one thing, so I must be an expert in everything." It is a field that favors autodidacts, so these myths self reinforce very easily.
The majority are left leaning, but it's not an overwhelming majority. Maybe 60/40. This policy will fuck conservative IT people, for sure.
a field that favors autodidacts
I feel personally attacked.
IT is just DIY with fewer letters. Even the "clouds" just add their own layers for you to deal with.
I am a staff engineer (contractor), most of us are not adverse to unionization. But we need a massive labor movement to cling onto it seems. The spark doesn't appear like it will happen within us, gotta be external by my view of it. The engineer today is just not often politically aware or active because of the stress of the workplace environment
I wonder when the magards will realize they've been played for the fools they are. It would be funny - and a little bit reassuring - if they massively turned against their racehorse before Jan 20...
The fact that the pendulum could swing so far so fast is an indication of how fucking long and exhausting the next 4 years will be. I'm too old for this shit.
Actually it's an indication of how desperate Americans are, or how stupid they are. Because nobody with good prospects in life and a working brain votes for Trump.
Probably a combination of both...
It's an indication of both stupidity and also desperation. Remember, this isn't happening just in the US, either. It's occurring worldwide, unfortunately.
Don't forget the latter causes the former. Literally: https://www.princeton.edu/news/2013/08/29/poor-concentration-poverty-reduces-brainpower-needed-navigating-other-areas-life
I had experience where I nearly fell for a common scam when I was in a desperate situation. At the time, I had no knowledge of that particular scam and was too rushed to find a solution to think critically. Luckily I was too dumb to even be properly scammed before someone who knew was able to stop me, but still.
I can believe the same happened on a mass scale. Desperate people being fed lies on an easy answer echoing each other, not realizing they’re being scammed.
If I may ask, what was the scam?
Fake housing listing. Said the key would be mailed because they weren’t in the area at the time, and wanted payment via some sort of money order or special check type or something (I forget exact details).
I needed to find a place quickly, with no idea how to do so or what I was doing, that would accept two people and multiple cats, on only my income (not a lot).
I got the wrong kind of payment, was able to get money back from that, and when I went to get the “right” kind of payment the cashier let me know it was a common scam.
The post-mortem is still being done but there are real issues that voters had that are important that the DNC address.
The numbers seem to indicate voters simply did not turn out, not that voters changed their vote to Trump.
They are also to blame, yes, but the real issue is that the DNC fails to learn the right lesson from election losses. And this one was a doozy. We'll be lucky if we get another election.
If we do, I can guarantee you we'll have another right of center candidate that smiles and nods at workers rights while getting absolutely smashed by corporate interests.
And we'll be here again, begging people to vote for the better of two candidates because this election is more important than the last. All the while Republicans continue to shit out turd candidates.
It's worth remembering that Trump's popularity with voters allowed him to drag the Trump-hating establishment Republican party kicking and screaming into his orbit, and to eventually bend it to his will. It is possible for the same thing to happen with the Democrats, but no similarly compelling candidate has emerged. It'd have to be someone the rank and file voters can unify behind, in a way that can't be ignored by the donor class that runs the party.
H1-B visa holders are essentially indentured servants. If they lose their job, they get deported and then it's back to living 12 to a room in Bangalore.
I'm honestly surprised that Elon isn't just pushing that angle as a positive.
For real, he could live cam their miserable existence and say, "See how these minorities suffer for American profits!"
Then the fireworks go off and an eagle screams. The audience cheers!
Not just H1-B, nearly all issued work visas are like that.
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“Tech slaves apply here”
I shouldn't be a hole in the concrete hacked away with a pickaxe ... it's a neatly installed steel door with electronic access
And they put an explosive collar on you when you go through with your H1-B visa.
This cartoon is incomplete. There should be an indication that Elon FIRED the qualified Americans first. The GOP is such a joke. Every dumbass who voted for Trump deserves to lose their job and get replaced by cheap, foreign labor.
MAGA crowd are mostly below H1B standards.
Nah Trump is down there with a second hole saying "gardeners and maids apply here", while the wall is "guarded" by a redneck with a MAGA hat.
Trumpty Dumpty.
In reality, trump can't do 13 different things associated with this image.
the other side is that H1-B visa holders are more vulnerable to the whims of bosses. they will come here and be treated worse because of the threat of losing their work visa and being sent home unless they find another business owner willing to sponsor the legal responsibilities of dealing with H1-B visas.
If it wasn’t likely to bite me so hard in the ass (middle-aged, senior high paid US tech worker), I would be loving the schadenfreude. Instead, some days I can feel the target forming on my back.
Paid less, can't shop around for jobs as easily, they love immigrants when they take good paying jobs and turn them into poor paying jobs. Trump wants immigrants. He wants immigrants to take your good paying jobs. He wants you to do the crappy poor person jobs. This is not rocket surgery.
The only thing that still makes sense is to find entertainment in dismantling federal institutions by electing the most dumb outrageous corrupt criminal available. Religion and racism are also a part of the picture but most people don’t take that so seriously.
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