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NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh says his party will bring forward a motion of non-confidence to bring down the Trudeau government in the next sitting of the House of Commons.

"The Liberals don't deserve another chance," Singh wrote in a letter on Friday. "That's why the NDP will vote to bring this government down."

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[-] psvrh@lemmy.ca 7 points 7 hours ago

Just to remind everyone: Layton pulled this same stunt, toppling Martin's government.

The result was the loss of a number of progressive initiatives Martin's people were working on, the election of fucking Stephen Harper and the most conservative Canadian political landscape since Borden. Science was suppressed, lslamophobia went from being a dogwhistle to a bullhorn, we narrowly avoided economic catastrophy. Harper even fucked with the Census in an attempt to remake Canada.

A lot of dippers really idolized Layton, but honestly he was a shameless opportunist and I don't forgive him for giving us almost a decade of Harper.

And Singh is pulling the same fucking stunt.

[-] rbesfe@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Poilievre is winning a majority no matter what, I'd rather get it out of the way sooner instead of sitting through another year of ineffective Liberal virtue signalling.

[-] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

There a good chance PP will just get more conservative votes in already conservative areas and still end up with a minority.

At that point he’ll have to find another party to work with and he’s already pissed them all off.

[-] brax@sh.itjust.works 20 points 21 hours ago

The Liberals don't deserve another chance, sure, but handing the election over to the conservative party? What the fuck...

[-] Pixel@lemmy.ca 10 points 21 hours ago

Why is it the responsibility of a third party like the NDP to keep up the Liberals in power?

If the NDP can steal and win former Liberal seats, it seems really dumb not to capitalize on that opportunity. It's not like the NDP will form government, nor will the Conservatives lose traction in the next 10 months. There's a Conservative government coming in regardless of how you feel.

[-] brax@sh.itjust.works 4 points 13 hours ago

It's not, but when the country is frothing at the mouth over even more unhinged authoritarian/oligarchy leadership than what we have, NDP aren't going to stand much of a chance on their own. All the going to do is drive more people to vote CPC

[-] honc@lemmy.ca 7 points 15 hours ago

Except the NDP are unlikely to pick up many Liberal seats and will go from holding the balance of power to having no power. I don’t follow this logic.

[-] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 day ago

"Maybe when Canada is fed up with the Cons, they'll vote us in!"

Shortsighted buffoons

[-] psvrh@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 hours ago

Singh et al learned absolutely nothing from the Harper era

[-] ProgrammingSocks@pawb.social 3 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

The only shortsighted buffoons I see are the Liberals who have thoroughly failed to meaningfully improve their voters' lives and address any of the many social crises that are impacting us.

[-] nik282000@lemmy.ca 3 points 8 hours ago

The only shortsighted buffoons I see are the NDP who have thoroughly failed to meaningfully improve their voters’ lives and address any of the many social crises that are impacting us.

The only shortsighted buffoons I see are the Conservatives who have thoroughly failed to meaningfully improve their voters’ lives and address any of the many social crises that are impacting us.

Works with every party.

[-] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 1 points 8 hours ago

Drop the whataboutism. Hold yourself to a higher standard.

All political parties are a blight on democracy. Case in point, party whips.

[-] bluebadoo@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago

How do you feel about response to COVID and the CERB payments?

Personally, that was a federal win for me.

[-] rabber@lemmy.ca 25 points 1 day ago

Dang welcome to Trump's Canada I guess. Scary times boys

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[-] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 31 points 2 days ago

Can this wait until Feb 1? Give Canadians a bit more of a chance to see the US get fucked first.

[-] sik0fewl@lemmy.ca 21 points 2 days ago

Parliament doesn't sit until Jan 26, so it won't happen before then.

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

First sitting on the 27th, to be exact. Source.

Yeah, I'm panicking a lot less now. And depending on the exact rules JT could prorogue it even further.

Somebody in the media mentioned a Liberal leadership election; if he goes that way I'll be "kalm" again.

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[-] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 23 points 2 days ago

"The Liberals don't deserve another chance,"

And Conservatives shouldn't even get a chance, yet Singh is handing them power on a silver plate.

Burning down the country and democracy in the West "to own the Libs" sounds like a plan we may never recover from.

[-] Pixel@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The Conservatives will win either way. There's nothing in the next 10 months that would prevent the Conservatives from winning short of PP beating up children.

Voting no confidence now allows the NDP to viably compete for seats like Ottawa Centre where the liberals are weak and rebuild their influence and standing in the house. I don't see why it's the duty of every left-leaning party to prop up the Liberals as the natural governing party. Waiting 10 months isn't going to cause the NDP to sweep into government, it might at best just delay the inevitable if they're lucky, but more likely delaying will catastrophically wipe out their party by making them look like Liberal stage props.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 4 points 1 day ago

I don't see why it's the duty of every left-leaning party to prop up the Liberals as the natural governing party.

It's the third party fallacy all over again.

[-] emeralddawn45@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 21 hours ago

Maybe Turdeau should have fucking followed through on election reform like he promised then.

[-] ProgrammingSocks@pawb.social 1 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

There is no fallacy. It's a solid split between NDP and Liberals. And that's really being propped up by the East. In the West it's Conservative vs NDP.

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[-] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 days ago
[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 17 points 2 days ago

Yeah, WTF is he thinking? At least wait until October after we've had a chance to put out the Trump fire a bit.

Hopefully it's a bluff to get Trudeau to resign, but that's not really the typical NDP MO.

[-] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 18 points 2 days ago

WTF is he thinking?

For better or worse, he's probably reached the point where he thinks they need to cut all remaining ties to the Liberals, and not be seen as propping them up, formally or otherwise.

[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 days ago

With the Conservatives 20 points ahead in polls, it's definitely for worse.

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[-] Kichae@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 days ago

WTF is he thinking?

"The Bloc will let me do some performative grand standing. I hope."

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[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

~~We're doomed. Probably.~~

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[-] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 10 points 2 days ago

Get ready for one of the ugliest campaigns in living memory.

[-] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 days ago

Please don’t do it Mr Singh.

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