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[-] mos@lemmy.world 13 points 2 hours ago

I think the language in his video is very important and different than "admitting defeat" with his beliefs. He just admits that he didn't believe the 24 hour sun in the southern hemisphere, and that specific belief was proven wrong. "So what does that mean? You are going to have to figure it out yourself." doesn't really sound like his belief of the flat earth was defeated.

[-] antlion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 hours ago

I think it can be done with far less travel. One can observe the length of a shadow of an object with a known height at solar noon for a year. Then travel north by car for half a day and observe the length of shadow. Then travel south by car for half a day and observe the length. You can actually use these measurements not only to demonstrate that you aren’t on a flat plane, but also to estimate the radius of the earth.

[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

But do they believe in cars?

[-] TomMasz@lemmy.world 14 points 2 hours ago

One of them claims it was "staged". As if it's possible to fake the Sun being visible for 24 hours. There's no convincing people like that.

[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

It was the north-sun of course!

[-] Wrufieotnak@feddit.org 75 points 4 hours ago

This should not be ridiculed but seen as what it is: realizing you got something wrong and admitting that.

This is very important, because otherwise those who are in the wrong will never admit it and double down to at least still be in their old social circle.

[-] NeatoBuilds@mander.xyz 1 points 20 minutes ago

Plus we gotta check every once in a while to keep the earth on its toes

[-] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 31 points 3 hours ago

right. we should all be praising this person for waking up from their slumber

[-] atro_city@fedia.io 60 points 4 hours ago

*Flat Earther. One dude. The rest are either dumb or trolling.

[-] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 10 points 2 hours ago

There were several of them who refused to go on the trip, which they were offered for free, and then when other people went on the trip, they claimed that footage of the trip was faked in some way.

I agree, the people are doing good, who went there and admitted the truth of what they were seeing. There’s a whole category that are even further gone than that, though, to where their brains will actively shield them against something that might threaten the whole self-referential structure.

[-] Coskii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 hour ago

They knew they couldn't continue the grift they're operating under when confronted with something they flat out denied the existence of as it goes completely against their model.

Nearly all the content creators know they're basically cult leaders and just want their own flock to pay for their lifestyles without having to really do anything.

[-] Bronzebeard@lemm.ee 32 points 4 hours ago

And they'll act like this guy was never one of them, and is a plant from the "globies" to trick them.

Because anything that disproves the conspiracy is actually part of the conspiracy

[-] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 10 points 4 hours ago

I mean the whole flat earth thing started as trolling anyway...

[-] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 11 points 3 hours ago

but then as with many conspiracies, it proved valuable to certain powerful actors who want us all to hate eachother

[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 hours ago

eachother

"Don't stand so close to me," 'each' said to the 'other'.

[-] jago@lemmy.world 1 points 22 minutes ago

I thought it was Sting.

[-] Mandy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 hours ago

But the other ones who weren't there still moved the goalpost

[-] astrsk@fedia.io 2 points 1 hour ago

They did that before the trip. There was “infighting” as the top dummies in the space tried to badmouth and discredit the ones going as “traitors”. It’s all just a handful of evil people trying to make money off their grift.

[-] troed@fedia.io 17 points 4 hours ago

I mean it's a lot cheaper to go to northern Canada or the Nordics if you want to experience 24h/sun (or night).

[-] Mirodir@discuss.tchncs.de 30 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

The reason they chose Antarctica is because the most often used flat earth model* has Antarctica as a ring on the "rim".

They usually do acknowledge a 24h sun in the north existing based on that model because it would require the sun to remain central over the disc, which is geometrically not really an issue. However the southern 24h sun is not possible with that model. (Edit: Excluding some weird lensing effects or multiple suns, like some of them claim)

*Most of them will tell you they don't have a model, because they don't really know what "model" means.

Source: I watched too many SciManDan videos.

[-] astrsk@fedia.io 2 points 1 hour ago

That and “the government” won’t let people go to the Antarctic because reasons.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 0 points 1 hour ago

While Greek philosophers like Pythagoras and Aristotle eventually proved the Earth was spherical

Where did they learn it? (Rhymes with "Kneejipt*)

[-] rickdg@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

“idk man, science is wrong all the time…”

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