And bluesky?
this post was submitted on 18 Dec 2024
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I haven't been asked to give any weird permissions, I just needed an email address and password to sign up. I never used twitter or anything similar other than instagram but I gotta say I'm not too excited about bluesky so far. I signed up when I found out Elon was mad because people were leaving twitter for bluesky. I enjoy seeing Mark Hamill's and George Takei's posts, and the most recent JWST pics are awesome, but overall I'm not a big fan. Maybe the way I set it up is suboptimal? Idk, I probably already have enough things sucking away my time and attention.
both don't have downvote buttons to help sort good/bad content
Thats what lemmy exists for... Not every platform needs voting. For microblogs, which usually represent and individual person, having voting would be a horrible idea because it would allow for brigading of small peoples platforms. With a few hundred people you could make sure that specific accounts or groups of people never reach "top".
Yeah, good thing you don't have to worry about brigading on Lemmy.
You can, but its not a platform built around individuals, so its harder or just less impactful to bully individuals. If you try to brigade a community, then you are immediately up against everyone that likes that community so its just a system thats more resistant to bullshit.
but i hate not being able to sort nazi crap downwards
You can just block people tho...
but that doesn't help the next person. plus a downvote is good feedback, so we know what we wrote is considered unworthy or unhelpful by others whatever their reasons might be
A study found that users who receive negative feedback on their posts tend to contribute more frequently, but their subsequent contributions are often of lower quality.
Additionally, there were concerns raised about how downvotes negatively affect new users (who aren't aware of a community's norms, and so are more likely to collect downvotes), and how downvotes stifle diverse viewpoints, helping to create an echo chamber (the so-called "reddit hivemind").
It contributes to a more toxic environment:
Receiving downvotes can negatively affect a user's self-esteem and confidence. Users may experience feelings of rejection or inadequacy when their posts are downvoted. This can lead to decreased participation or self-censorship to avoid future negative feedback.
Frequent downvoting may contribute to increased stress and anxiety for some users. The fear of being judged harshly by peers can create a hostile online environment.
Thats just not what microblogging is for. Its not a forum, its a blog. If you dont think its worth seeing just dont follow, like or reblog it. If you want a prechewed version of reality then use a feed to only view things from people you like.
but i like everyone else
There are moderation lists which honestly work better than a downvote when it comes to isolate assholes
And neither has shit for content.
We have shit for content here, hehe :-).
So many questions in my mind...
If:
- Shit
As in literal shit, no, and lets try to keep it that way.
- Shit
As nohing of quality, that is absent everywhere. Go read a book, you're better off. Support an online archive while you are at it. Save ebooks and other cultural media in an offline support and share ot with others
- Shit
As an indication of quantity, I disagree. There is plenty of shit to scroll through and pilling higher every second.
- Shit
As in all of the above... where can you even find that?
Tbf, Reddit does have an infinite shit generator, so long as you are okay with bot reposts.
We have the same here, very few communities do quality content
I like !tenforward@lemmy.world and the newly created !lotrmemes@lemmy.dbzer0.com, both often feature OC - not exclusively but being kinda known for a preference and offering of such. Maybe !starwarsmemes@lemmy.world too, but it's far less active.
But if people want to offer content, they will. Except often the environment is not welcoming, so it's a bit of a cache-22 needing solid moderation first, but needing solid content even first-er, which leads to super power mods who know how having to do most of the mod work.
It's not easy, but we do seem to be growing, even as it looks like from the count of actual people we're probably shrinking just a tiny bit, though those here are more active. Mostly in comments rather than posts.
I agree with you 100%, but I think the root of the problem during the reddit exodus was that people wanted to grow at any cost so they allowed reposts, low effort and bots/scripts that kept bringing in things from reddit or non-news... which honestly was a lot of things except solid content, now people are so used to those things that we don't really have anything to offer outside of those communities, the rest is just a reddit copy-paste.
Except, again, I see so many people commenting that they don't want to post content, for fear of the feedback that they will get. You cannot force people to do something against their will.
And content creators in particular are a special breed: they don't care as much about using Arch Linux btw, or perhaps politics, so much as reaching a wider audience. And we are not very tolerant here to outsiders POV (go visit lemmy.ml without a logged-in account and tell me what you see there on the front page or two? its default sort is Local btw, so don't change that -> this is what newcomers seem to most often see, as that is the #1 instance recommendation by a Google search, not DDG but Google, as in what a mainstream normie would use; tbf the anti-Western world barrage might have calmed down since the elections?).
Particularly the downvote barraging - I've posted literal award-winning content that gets as many downvotes as upvotes, by people who seemed to not know what was being offered. Oh well. Once a post is made, we can and often do have nice conversations here, but we just as often have conversations with trolls. We are not terribly welcoming. Especially hexbear.
But take another look at those communities I mentioned - often those are OC. Not always, but sometimes.
I reviewed my comment. Now you can have a sound laugh at my expense.
That's a lot of shit!
Wait, are we shitting now on shit? Or just shooting the shit?
Yes.