It's not ready for everyday users when you disable basic multimedia codecs. I know it's a US patent issue but still, you can't expect newcomers and everyday users to just "install a browser via flatpak instead" or "just get your mesa and ffmpeg from this third party repo"
Installing any OS is not for everyday users. Most people wouldn't have any idea how to install windows either. Whoever is setting up the computer should take care of all of that to begin with. I've set up multiple computers for older family members with SUSE and they are all happy with them, and I get almost no tech support calls. The one exception is printing, but you get that with anything because printing sucks. It's really to my advantage with my step father's computer because he has negative computer knowledge. He was one of those people who had a million add on bars in IE because he'd click the accept button on every shady website he visited.
Brave is not a privacy focus browser.
Source?
why not
the article does not tell about how to keep the system up to date
Yeah too bad, they should have hilighted that on GNOME DE with OpenSUSE it prompts you that updates are available and you hit OK or cancel. KDE might have something similar.
KDE too, but those users who have literally no idea how does the computer work, they won't even remember to check that popup window. an automatic solution is what is needed.
GNOME puts it right in your face as a dialog message...but yeah people will ignore it
I also sometimes (but often enough, including a time this week) hear people discuss to not install updates because of this and that.
but then if I think about it, I have trained myself too to this:
- I avoid updates to my smart tv, because I know with facts that they'll enshittify it, including patching in admin access (was not obtained by a no-interaction attack), flooding it with ads and even more tracking, and even more preinstalled apps and their own tracking. this applies to any "smart" appliences
- I am cautious with android updates, because they sometimes break things with no way back, not even a real way to do backups. besides that, major version updates always reset some settings including to not connect automatically to any random ISP's cellular network. versions starting with 8 also introduced many new arbitrary limitations out of the user's control that cannot be reverted
- I've seen many apps on the play store get enshittified, but sometimes f-droid apps to make changes that I would wish they rather didn't do
- windows updates breaking expected and unexpected things just as well
- linux is fragile regarding updates, though at times an immediate reboot solves it (when the issue is caused by incompatibility between the the on-disk and in-memory versions of the programs and program libraries)
TV I agree, my LG updated and now streaming video is broken.
For android phone GrapheneOS.
I haven't found Linux to be fragile. I think that is distro dependent.
I'm on same OpenSUSE (with version upgrades) since 2017. Every update has been fine, only time it was an issue is when nVidia driver got ahead of the kernel for a few days. But OpenSUSE you just choose the previous snapshot.
My wife's laptops is NixOS for maybe 3 years now, no issues.
For android phone GrapheneOS.
it does not fix a lot of the bullshit changes
But you can install older versions , or choose when you update
which is not a solution, only a hotfix
Most people don’t give much thought to their operating system, but with Windows 10 support ending in October 2025, many will start searching for alternatives...
I predict most of them are going to waste a ton of money and buy a Window 11 device. Or waste a shit-ton of money and buy a Apple device. Or just say "fuck it" and keep Windows 10 (that's what my mom will surely do. I stopped caring, as my dad still wants to use his even older Windows 8 shitbox and my mom 100% agrees to this).
I think that all the people that are on Windows 10 today will keep even if the support ends
Except it throws big, scary-looking, fullscreen warnings already...
Oh sorry I didn't know, but I don't think this could change something
Well, that's what I said. Old shitboxes and such. May be old, but would run like a charm with Linux. But is a shitbox because the installed OS (WIndows in this case) is completely obsolete.
I love that Linux exists, but I really don't appreciate the bullshit PR speak about how regular users can switch from Windows with little-to-no friction. The second something doesn't work as expected, even a minor thing, they'll be at a complete loss about how to even investigate the issue, let alone correct it. Windows competency doesn't transfer to Linux for even the most basic under-the-hood stuff. The less honest you are about that, the fewer people will try Linux a second time, and the more people will write off the entire endeavour as being the domain of computer experts/enthusiasts.
The second something doesn’t work as expected, even a minor thing, they’ll be at a complete loss about how to even investigate the issue, let alone correct it.
In the majority of cases, this is no different from Windows users on Windows.
True, but users will be differently confused in Linux.
Latest Tumbleweed snapshot has a Mesa bug that causes 50% chance of black screen after login. A few weeks before that Plymouth was broken causing >1 minute boot times. To solve these issues users need to learn how to rollback updates from command line, so it's certainly not a good replacement for Windows.
I know it's rolling release distro but you can't claim "it's rolling release so bugs are expected and it's your fault for using it" and "it's betest and stablest system ever, everyone should use it" at the same time.
Intel gfx and no issues
Funnily enough I had more bugs on Tumbleweed than on Arch. Admittedly, most of them were probably not on Tumbleweed, but it seems like there are just much more people caring about Arch. Otherwise I can't explain why it gets so much better support
The article doesn't mention or recommend Tumbleweed as far as I can see.
Is this fakenews or is my tumbleweed install at home hardened... any TW users here heard of this?
https://forums.opensuse.org/t/snapshot-start-up-slowdown-18112024/180434
https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1233532
https://forums.opensuse.org/t/after-todays-upgrade-tumbleweed-i-can-no-longer-log-in-via-the-wayland-session/180541
https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1234302
https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/issues/12253
Not all hardware seems to be affected (at lest in case of second issue). I have a AMD GPU though and I hit both of them.
I also have AMD and do updates regularly and didn't have this issue, but I think the problem is pretty apparent and has been for quite some time. Packman repository should not be used by non-knowledgeable users! I am not exactly sure what that means for daily use, but as seen here it creates issues if you are not aware what an update actually does or just press "yes, yes, yes" to all questions in an update process.
In regards to plymouth I have no clue, but it seems this should be easily manageable by booting into a previous snapshot?
what a dogshit boomer humor type lemmy community lmao
I enjoy them. But I'm a dogshit boomer.
Is there good humor somewhere on Lemmy?
This is not an accurate depiction. All those parts look like they will fit out of the box and all the parts are there.
Lol
Little do they known that both Clone Hero and YARG are native, the old crummy PC ports run fine on Wine (Even the WTDE mod) and RPCS3 works fantastic for Rock Band
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