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NGL, not asking for a friend. Given the current trends in US politics, it seems prudent to at least look into it.

Most of the online content on the topic seems to be by immigration attorneys hustling ultra rich people. I'm not ultra rich. I have a job in tech, could work remotely, also have enough assets to not desperately need money if the cost of living were low enough.

I am a native English speaker, fluent enough in Spanish to survive in a Spanish speaking country. I am old, male, cis, hetero, basically asexual at this point. I am outgoing, comfortable among strangers.

What's good and bad about where you live? Would it be OK for a outsider, newcomer?

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[–] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Working with a few of them. One moved here around 20 years ago, and one moved here 2 years ago. They're both doing fine. The rest I don't know very well.

Don't bring your politics over here, though.

[–] EnderMB@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm in the UK, and I work with a LOT of Americans already, so know this first hand:

  • You fuckers are always in for a culture shock when you realise that everywhere isn't like London. You seem to either expect London or Harry Potter Land, but when you end up somewhere like Bristol, Leeds, or Birmingham the frame of reference just dies and you see the wheels turning in your head trying to make sense of it all.
  • Weirdly, you seem to really like our supermarkets. They're a lot smaller than yours, meal deals are a novelty that never gets old, and paying the price on the tag is the greatest thing ever.
  • You love our bread, and our chocolate is like crack to you. You'd think that you'd moved to France or something...
  • Butter on bread will fuck you up. You use Mayo all the time, but we use butter/spread, and it messes with your minds.
  • You quickly learn that Europe is a continent, and that cultures across the continent are very different to one another. You also learn that no one knows US history that well, or that we had a war with you (since we have basically had a war with everyone at some point).
  • The drinking culture is a really interesting one. Some love it, some hate it. It's a staple of British life
  • We get paid a lot less than you do, but your money will go much further because you're not spending it on healthcare. You'll also get taxed a lot, but ultimately you'll earn enough to be comfortable, and a comfortable life in the UK is nice.

To answer your question, you're more than welcome here, and it's much easier to get a visa to the UK for you than for us to go to the US. Expect some people to give you shit for Trump, but give them shit back for Brexit and electing the Tories for 15 years.

[–] multicolorKnight@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Now we're talking. I have been to the UK quite a bit, and work with plenty of Brits here, so:
Americans are not generally in the habit of addressing people as "you fuckers" until we know you better. :)
UK supermarkets are more like US conveniences stores with more food and no fuel pumps in front. They are OK.
Agreed, the existence of anything besides London, Liverpool, and maybe Manchester is totally a blank to us. Went to Birmingham, had no ckue.
Butter on bread is the only way, don't know where you got that from.
No reason you guys should care about US history. English history is much more interesting.
Engkish pubs are good. Beer, I think, has gotten better in the US recently.
After Brexit, the UK has permanently renounced the right to criticize anyone's politics. Still, recent developments there give me hope that it's possible to come out the other end of this.
Thank you.

[–] kaffiene@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

New Zealander here. I work in IT. Americans seem to get on fine here in the IT sector. NZ is less right wing than the US but you wouldn't earn as much and housing is expensive

[–] Mothra@mander.xyz 6 points 1 year ago

I think you'd be fine here in Australia but that depends on whether you have a job or not. Australia is good for anyone who comes with employment already. Otherwise its Work And Holiday visa pathways are better suited to younger people because of the usually physical and demanding nature of the jobs available.

Otherwise Argentina would also be legally okay for you, however I haven't lived there for a very long time so I can't say for sure. It would be a lot less safe for foreigners than Australia but I hear it wouldn't be more rough than some of the rough places in the US. You will want a stable source of income ideally from a remote job, such as freelancing for clients that can pay with dollars or euros. You will also want a friend who's native or already well established so they can teach you the ropes socially/locally and with the current state of the country. I would personally not go back to Argentina without a stable income because making a livable income inside the country is going to be next to impossible.

[–] Mr_Blott@feddit.uk 6 points 1 year ago

You hit the nail on the head when you said "expats or exiles"

They're immigrants, and it's only Brits and Yanks that refuse to admit it

I'm an immigrant. Learn the fucking language yous cunts. Respect the country's mindset. Pay your fucking taxes.

[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Okay I've read about three comments and I'm gonna need someone to explain the connotation behind the word "expat" because the only definition I can find is "Someone who resides outside their country of origin."

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Very online folks word lawyering to the n-th degree. Language shifts and has different meanings in different countries.

To play along, I've heard "expat" to refer to someone on a work appointment with a fixed timeline, say, someone who works for Microsoft being sent to France for 2 years. I've heard many Americans say "I'm immigrating to" to mean they are going through permeant resident or citizen pathways with the host country.

Others have a different read of the word, but as long as you aren't a jerk wherever you are going, it won't ever come up

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[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

Wanna move and work remotely for your current company I guess? Why should we welcome you instead of someone who wants to come here to fill up a vacant position that we don't have workforce for?

You can't have your cake and eat it too just because you're angry that the wrong guy got elected. There are people around the world getting bombed, they're the people who need to get out of their country, not a tech bro that could just move to a State that reliably elected Democrats.

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