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[–] apprehentice@lemmy.enchanted.social 149 points 3 months ago (4 children)

It's funny because apps like Blender and Krita are actually competitive to proprietary software.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 86 points 3 months ago (1 children)

And Linux/BSD are so good proprietary developers rip them off to whatever degree legally permissible.

[–] RandomVideos@programming.dev 46 points 3 months ago

Microsoft servers also use linux

[–] doktormerlin@feddit.org 54 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Blender had a reeeeaaally long way though, I remember a time where Blender was quite big already but Maya just was miles ahead in terms of usability. Nowadays they are not only even, Blender is probably used more often since it's not only free but more people know how to use it than Maya

[–] boletus@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 months ago

And also maya sucks.

[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 3 points 3 months ago

I tried blender in those old days but stuck with cinema 4D at the time, blender really sucked. These days it's totally awesome kinda wish I had more time for it but I'm focused on other things.

[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago (3 children)

And Firefox, git, Dia, gimp, etc...

Proprietary OS's like Windows and macOS lack package managers too that tools like chocolatey and homebrew provide.

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 4 points 3 months ago

Dia and gimp are ok, but they’re still quite behind the curve. I love floss and wouldn’t use the closed alternatives, but we got to know where we stand.

[–] eatham@aussie.zone 4 points 3 months ago (5 children)

There are proprietary VCS?

[–] ozymandias117@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

git was created because a proprietary VCS was being a dick

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[–] superkret@feddit.org 86 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Read "The Mythical Man-Month".

Basically, a team of 5-8 motivated developers can create high quality, medium complexity software extremely fast.
But if the project is just a little too complex for one team of devs and you need more people, then you'll need a lot more people. And a lot more time.

Cause the more people you add to the project, the more overhead you have. Suddenly you need to pull devs off coding to bring new hires up to speed. You need to write documentation on coding style guidelines, hold meetings, maintain your infrastructure, negotiate with hardware suppliers, have someone fix the server room's door locks, schedule job interviews, etc. etc.

[–] darkpanda@lemmy.ca 37 points 3 months ago

“What one programmer can do in one month, two programmers can do in two months.”

[–] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 months ago

Counterpoint: 'The Brooks's Law analysis (and the resulting fear of large numbers in development groups) rests on a hidden assummption: that the communications structure of the project is necessarily a complete graph, that everybody talks to everybody else. But on open-source projects, the halo developers work on what are in effect separable parallel subtasks and interact with each other very little; code changes and bug reports stream through the core group, and only within that small core group do we pay the full Brooksian overhead.'

Source: http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/cathedral-bazaar/cathedral-bazaar/ar01s05.html

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[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 58 points 3 months ago (4 children)

I love this meme because every app on my phone designed by a company worth more than a million dollars fucking sucks, and the best app on my phone is RIF, an app designed by a single developer, and reanimated into a lich by a team of programmers for free

[–] fibojoly@sh.itjust.works 18 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Wait wait wait... RiF ain't dead?!

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I would say it's undead. Like a Lich. The fine folks at revanced.app have done an amazing job reanimating it. It's just as good as it was last June!

This guide should help

[–] Robust_Mirror@aussie.zone 7 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Can you log in yet? Last time I did this I couldn't log into an account, only browse.

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm logged in, so might be worth a try

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[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 33 points 3 months ago (8 children)

It's hilarious that you think that proprietary software is actually better.

[–] MareOfNights@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 3 months ago (2 children)
[–] qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Add to that photo editing (as much as GIMP is great...). I would guess DAW and video editing would fall under that category, too...and good luck finding many AAA open source games.

[–] MareOfNights@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Photo and Video editing is actually pretty good, since the backends (magick/ffmpeg) are open source

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[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 18 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Well, sometimes it happens. Lemmy was semi-broken during the APIocalypse, and there still isn't such a thing as a FOSS Facebook, or search engine backend for that matter.

[–] RandomVideos@programming.dev 7 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I have heard that friendica is similar to facebook

[–] UnRelatedBurner@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Can you get (almost) every single person on there? Until not facebook is unreplaceable.

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[–] HStone32@lemmy.world 31 points 3 months ago (1 children)

"Dear floss4life,

Our developers have encountered an issue while using the open source framework you published on github. We have lost as many as 400 user accounts. The estimated cost of this error is $6800.

This is unacceptable. Be a professional and fix it immediately.

Chad Elkowitz, MBA, Gruvbert and sons Finance Lt"

[–] enbipanic@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That's why the no warranty clause is by far the most important in any license granting access to the public

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[–] arisunz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 3 months ago (1 children)

i want to boil people like this alive

in minecraft of course

[–] toastal@lemmy.ml 21 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] hobbsc@lemmy.sdf.org 22 points 3 months ago (2 children)
[–] toastal@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 months ago

Snap! I forgot about the rename news already… forgettable new name :)

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[–] flashgnash@lemm.ee 18 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I've actually found a lot of the smaller foss tools I use are better than their proprietary counterparts because of the design philosophy and that people don't cut as many corners on passion projects as when they're on a deadline

[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

For real. I just spent a decade in academia working dog hours with little pay keeping services running wondering how the true devs and sysadmins do it.

I recently switched to the corporate world and have peeked behind curtain of competency: headless chickens running around, patching failing products rather than spending time to properly fix them because immediate results are the only metric that counts.

Stability, scalability, reproducibility? Forget it, that's someone else's problem apparently.

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[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 11 points 3 months ago

“All-star” makes me worried there’s some hidden society of super competent developers remaining at the big software corps that we somehow never noticed.

[–] Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz 10 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Are most open-source software developed by hobbyists?

[–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 29 points 3 months ago

well, most as in numerically, technically yes :D

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 16 points 3 months ago (2 children)

yes and they either become popular because of their usefulness and get organized like firefox/mozilla or they get co-opted by corporations and invariably enshitified like chrome/chromium

[–] entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Firefox/Mozilla as an example is a bit of a stretch, given the fact that Mozilla Browser/Firefox is originally based on the open-sourced version of Netscape Navigator

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

very much a stretch, i was trying to relate the comment to current events and that was the closest thing i could come up with atm.

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[–] eya@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

firefox is squarely in the "co-opted by corporations and invariably enshitified"

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[–] stsquad@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

There is a very large corpus of FLOSS software out there serving everything from individual itches to whole industries. Any project that is important to someone's bottom line is likely to have paid developers working on it but often alongside hobbyists.

The project I predominately work on is about 90% paid developers but from lots of different companies and organisations. Practically though the developers don't care about the affiliation of the other developers they work with but the ideas and patches they bring to the project.

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[–] RandomVideos@programming.dev 4 points 3 months ago

100% of the open-source software i contributed to was developed by hobbyists so, using that information, you can infer from only that information that only hobbyists can develop open-source software

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 months ago

Star designers and engineers don't do Open Source? 🥺

[–] buzz86us@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

Because it can't be turned into a service

[–] sunnie@sopuli.xyz 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

the issue with this argument is that i don't care about who made the app when it doesn't work. that's why i still have a chromium based secondary browser, it doesn't matter that it's the work of a billion dollar company trying to get a monopoly when the website i'm on is broken. yes, the blame is on who made the website, not firefox. i still need to be able to use it somehow

[–] emmie@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

80/20

I live by this rule, it made me gain so much credibility and money from people who don’t know any better. 80/20 <3

20 percent of work nets you 80 percent of result (except no one knows what I did isn’t 100 percent) bam 4/5 of time saved. Everyone is happy and if something doesn’t work we can just blame it on client

[–] FourPacketsOfPeanuts@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago

I follow the 80/20 rule recursively. as soon as I've gotten 80% of the way there for 20% effort I immediately stop, and start a brand new project for the remaining 20%. Bam! 96% complete for only 24% effort.

taps forehead

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

.. that depends on this FOSS app.

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