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Israeli Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich welcomed President-elect Donald Trump’s electoral victory Monday, saying that “the time has come” to extend full Israeli sovereignty over the occupied West Bank.

He made the comment a day after Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said in a recorded statement that he has spoken three times with Trump since the election and that they “see eye to eye on the Iranian threat.

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[-] Cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.win 99 points 1 month ago

What a shocker! Who could have predicted this?

[-] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 86 points 1 month ago

Holy shit!

Hang on. I can't find my Pikachu shocked face. I must have left it at the other article where the Republicans said they lied about Project 2025.

[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

We should start making bets about this

[-] lychee@lemmy.blahaj.zone 60 points 1 month ago

we're about to see something really shocking and ugly aren't we. more so than usual I mean

[-] gdog05@lemmy.world 58 points 1 month ago

No, I've been told a Trump victory couldn't make anything worse for Palestine. This should just be status quo stuff here.

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 48 points 1 month ago

Indeed, because "Genocide Joe" and so on, argle bargle. The voters that sat out because of this, or worse, outright voted for donvict will have a lot to answer for. I mean, if they actually give a shit about Palestinians and didn't really just want to be Above It All (TM).

[-] GBU_28@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago

I like argle bargle. I shall use it

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[-] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 49 points 1 month ago

So all you "But Gaza!" people......how'd that work out for you?

[-] runiq@feddit.org 44 points 1 month ago

This may just be an observation from across the pond, but it feels like the But Gaza people were nothing but a troll farm and y'all got played.

Man, this whole situation is all kinds of fucked.

[-] 2pt_perversion@lemmy.world 30 points 1 month ago

The "people" bringing it up nonstop on social media might have been state actors or trolls but there were plenty of real people who followed the movement. They're still "But Gaza!" people regardless of how the idea that they should abstain from voting got into their head.

[-] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 18 points 1 month ago

I voted Harris, but I was pretty fucking disgusted with Kamala's refusal to change course on this.

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[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

It's mostly true. Someone was tracking those accounts and nearly all of them stopped posting entirely immediately after the election. Either very dedicated, or astroturfing.

[-] BassTurd@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

Some of us called these people on their shit. They're all gone now, so at least we have that.

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[-] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

The Harris campaign made the decision to not break from Biden on Israel, at the cost of a +6 points gain. That's the fault of the campaign's calculations to ignore those voters, take them for granted, and instead run to the right with Liz Cheney and having the most lethal Military.

I voted for Harris and told others to do the same. It's still on the campaign. Blaming voters is just sowing division when we need unity and solidarity to fight against Fascism.

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Our first matchup tested a Democrat and a Republican who “both agree with Israel’s current approach to the conflict in Gaza”. In this case, the generic candidates tied 44–44. The second matchup saw the same Republican facing a Democrat supporting “an immediate ceasefire and a halt of military aid and arms sales to Israel”. Interestingly, the Democrat led 49–43, with Independents and 2020 non-voters driving the bulk of this shift.

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In Pennsylvania, 34% of respondents said they would be more likely to vote for the Democratic nominee if the nominee vowed to withhold weapons to Israel, compared to 7% who said they would be less likely. The rest said it would make no difference. In Arizona, 35% said they’d be more likely, while 5% would be less likely. And in Georgia, 39% said they’d be more likely, also compared to 5% who would be less likely.

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Majorities of Democrats (67%) and Independents (55%) believe the US should either end support for Israel’s war effort or make that support conditional on a ceasefire. Only 8% of Democrats but 42% of Republicans think the US must support Israel unconditionally.

Republicans and Independents most often point to immigration as one of Biden’s top foreign policy failures. Democrats most often select the US response to the war in Gaza.

[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

You're right that they really messed up here

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[-] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 36 points 1 month ago

Good work Pro-Palestinian voters, you screwed your own people.

By the way, the US military will most likely gear up for a war against Iran. Yep, orders from Riyadh and Tel Aviv for another 20 year shit hitting the fan adventure doomed to fail.

[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 26 points 1 month ago

The election wasn't decided by voters who cared about Palestine, I don't think.

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[-] Godric@lemmy.world 32 points 1 month ago

Palestinians Saved ❎

Climate Action Taken ❎

Women's reproductive freedom secured ❎

Sensible immigration reform ❎

Sense of smugness achieved ✅

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[-] socsa@piefed.social 18 points 1 month ago

Honey, why is there a leopard at the door?

[-] DirkMcCallahan@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

AMA request: Anyone who voted for Jill Stein or Trump because Kamala wasn't hard enough on Israel.

[-] ripcord@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

In theory it was mostly people not voting for Harris (or anyone). In most cases here, anyway. Supposedly.

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[-] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

Well that would be one way of ending the war on day one.

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

Gosh. This is my shocked face.

[-] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

Take your bow protest voters… we fucking told you this would happen.

This is ALL on you.

[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 month ago

ITT: "How could third party voters do this? I have learned nothing."

[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Dear everyone who refused to vote: I hope you're happy! Really helping out the Israel-Palestine situation right now. You did this. Look at your crime against humanity and despair.

Dear Harris: You could have singlehandedly prevented this.

I'm playing both sides, so that I always come out on top.

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[-] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 month ago

Lol Hope all these people didnt vote for Harris based on Gaza really regret their decision now. They were warned

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