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[-] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 26 points 2 hours ago

Here is the ugly truth (which I hate). Nobody is coming to save the Palestinians. The Democrats won't stop the genocide and the GOP will accelerate it. Even if Jill Stein won the presidency, she would not have a single vote in the House or Senate. She would be completely powerless to do anything about Gaza. Veto? She'd get overridden in less than 24 hours. The fact is that the Palestinian genocide is not on the ballot in the US, but a whole lot of other issues are.

The struggle to reign in Israel, make them pay for their actions, force those complicit within our government and media out of power, and ultimately help survivors rebuild the nation that was brutally stolen from them is going to take a massive democratic (small d) uprising from the ground up. We need to start at the local level and work our way up. This is literally what the Republicans have done for decades and why they hold so much power.

So yes, lets fix our democracy. Let us get rid of the two party system amongst a mountain of other changes. But to do so, we have to have a democracy left to save, which we won't unless Trump and the GOP is decisively trounced this election. American Democracy, or what is left of it, has cancer. We need to cut it out.

[-] dwemthy 2 points 17 minutes ago

Adding on to this: review your down ballot candidates! There's a pro Palestine candidate in my House race with other good policies as well. One vote has a lot more impact for House races.

[-] Lightor@lemmy.world 5 points 1 hour ago

"I will never vote for genocide" incoming

[-] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 3 points 1 hour ago

From my viewpoint this is a good analogy. I would love to have the switch to kill 0 but I would not say its broken its still under construction and won't be complete for some decades if we all work on it but it takes the majority to work on it and we know a majority won't but people are dying right now and we can have more or less of them or work on the switch.

[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 11 points 3 hours ago

We have too many trolley problems for a nation with limited rail transportation to solve.

[-] 0x0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 hours ago

The American mind cannot comprehend the trolley problem, nor trolleys for that matter

[-] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 8 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Palestinian lives and women's bodies are a sacrifice gaming-chair leftists are willing to make for their sense of moral superiority.

[-] undergroundoverground@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago

I'm glad to hear that trump has said that he'll stop arming Israel and will end israels illegal occupation of gaza.

Well, i mean, he must have or else the above would just be some of the lowest sophistry you might ever have the misfortune of reading.

[-] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 6 points 2 hours ago

No, Trump will undoubtedly make it worse. That is why enabling him to win regardless of the rhetorical contortions made to justify it is a knowing sacrifice of Palestinian lives that some so-called leftists are willing to make so they can be edgy on social media.

[-] undergroundoverground@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago

I 100% misunderstood you. Apologies, my mistake.

[-] RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 34 minutes ago

Wasn't your error. The sarcasm was dripping off your earlier comment.

[-] multifariace@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago

There's a fat old man with a red hat and a gun sitting on my first switch. I'm gonna go ahead and see if I can fix the other switch while everyone else is getting run over.

[-] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 14 points 6 hours ago

so is part of the meme that the crazy conspiracy guy is actually right? i didn't watch the show. but he is

[-] moncharleskey@lemmy.zip 9 points 5 hours ago

The meme is from an episode of It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia, and Charlie here has taken a job with another character, Mac, where they are delivering mail in an office complex. Charlie is in the mail room all day while Mac chats up the office staff and pretends to work in someones office while they are on vacation. Charlie gets increasingly paranoid and cooks up this idea that none of the people he's getting mail for actually exist. Mac informs him that not only do these people exist, but they are all wondering where their mail is.

So, no, in the show the crazy one, Charlie, is definitely not right, and almost never is.

Carol? Caaaarol?!

[-] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 9 points 4 hours ago

they are delivering mail in an office complex.

Or more accurately, Charlie is throwing the mail away because he can't read the names of the people he is supposed to be delivering the mail to.

[-] nictophilia@fedia.io 2 points 4 hours ago

Ok now it's a trolley problem, except instead of a trolley it's a US presidential election, and instead of pulling a lever you vote

[-] SparrowHawk@feddit.it 2 points 5 hours ago

I think you're only allowed to be this cocky if you actually pressure your party after its election. You don't do this, you forget about democracy the moment it's most important to pressure your leaders. If the dem party allowed republicans to go this far it's because they know they just have to put out some barely decent optics and then they'll be off the hook for 4 years, winning or losing.

If things are as shitty as they are it's also because of the people that wake up in time only to berate those who've been talking and protesting unheard for all these years, maybe with your voice the dem party would actually become desirable and not just the least worst option.

Maybe people will be more inclined to listen to you if you didn't treat them like mindless sheep, somewhat ironically. Politics isn't just voting, and it isn't just voting the lesser evil, doing only that is literally how fascism finds purchase in democracy and you should stop being so high and mighty defending the party responsible for this inaction for so many years

[-] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 6 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

What many people don't realize, some know all to well, once the dems are established the democrat party out number the left voices that want to push back against it. They then go about shutting down all discussions. So, this year, and this is all too premature, if Kamala wins let her face the fire immediately. Don't come out shutting down everyone who has something true but factually bad for Kamala. I know this is a bad look, because sexism, but we can't go on like this where the president gets a infinite pass because they lock themselves up in the white house never to be seen or heard again.

[-] SparrowHawk@feddit.it 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

I don't see how is it sexist to hold a person accountable. It would be sexist to not do so just for the fact that that person happens to be a woman

Totally agree with the rest tho

It's sexist because we would be treating kamala different and there will definitely be some that do it based solely on the fact that she's a woman.

[-] SparrowHawk@feddit.it 1 points 1 hour ago

Why differently? Do you think it is impossible to criticize two sides at once?

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