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[-] dan@upvote.au 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Extended updates always cost money, and this is pretty cheap relative to extended support for previous versions of Windows. I don't understand why it's newsworthy?

Windows 10 is nearly ten years old.

[-] suodrazah@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

But all my Windows VMs are offline and already years out of date? Go home Microsoft.

[-] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 7 points 6 hours ago

Counteroffer - spend that $30 on a drink and turn them down. Just keep on using windows 10 and clog up their support tickets ^_^

[-] DimFisher@lemmy.world 12 points 9 hours ago

I m a Linux user for 10 years now and well.... I just wanted to say that, bye

[-] Custodian1623@lemmy.world 16 points 8 hours ago
[-] nobleshift@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago

But notice they didn't mention Arch ....

[-] Custodian1623@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

i use arch but i dont tell people about it wait shit

[-] Snapz@lemmy.world 7 points 8 hours ago

"Please you monsters, just pay, our children are getting older, and it's time they moved out and bought their OWN islands off Seattle!"

[-] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 3 points 7 hours ago

How about I continue using it forever and I just MIGHT not blow up all your datacenters ?

[-] bbuez@lemmy.world 7 points 9 hours ago

In a way, isn't this just saying windows 11 is not ready as a replacement? Because fuck me my work laptop drives me nutty, IT hasn't locked down all the popups and I can't fix it withut IT..

[-] lud@lemm.ee 7 points 8 hours ago

In a way, isn't this just saying windows 11 is not ready as a replacement?

No, Microsoft has offered paid extended support for afaik all other windows versions at least as far back as XP.

There is always something that can't be upgraded because it's running some obscure software or something. At work we are unfortunately running a single Windows Server 2003 server because it's running some software that's absolutely critical and apparently can't be upgraded (I should test that though).

Pretty much every hardware or software company in at least IT offers (often really expensive) extended support for old stuff.

It's just the way of things. It isn't an admission that Win 11 Is bad of any kind

[-] Bottabottabotta@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago

Man, I would love a follow up on that critical app. When I started in IT we had a sole dev that kept telling IT things couldn't be updated and I guess they never challenged him. One day I got sick of trying to downgrade to 32 bit windows and moving pc's around to for the growing needs of the company while one guy dictated everything has to stay old and shitty. Found out that alot of stuff he claimed could work only on 32 bit windows or server 2003, just needed to be tried on windows 10 or server 2016 and it was fine.

[-] lud@lemm.ee 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

I started at the company during the summer so I haven't been around long but my colleague has worked there for over 10 years and my former colleague worked there for 20 years. So I think that they are probably right.

The software is also something from the past that not a lot of people use anymore. Unfortunately I can't say what it is because people could figure out where I work very easily if I did, I believe it's from the 80s. My company is also the company that has used this kind of system for the longest time in the world.

Fun fact: I just searched up the software/system and I found out on Wikipedia that another company in the same industry had to reverse engineer and replace the entire system because it was just too old, and hard to maintain.

With that said, some of the servers the software uses runs at least on 2012 and 2016. I haven't checked but if it's a VM, I should absolutely just try and replace it and see what happens.

[-] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 15 points 11 hours ago

How about I not pay and take my chances...

[-] kava@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago

it's pretty dangerous not to be getting security updates. probably for regular users won't be a big deal. i have a feeling really bad vulnerabilities will be patched even if you don't pay for it just out of a potential PR issue. but i would almost definitely pay this if I were a business who didn't plan on switching to Win 11 soon

on a personal level i don't understand why anyone continues to use windows these days

[-] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

For what I do, there's very low risk of anything happening. As for why use it at all. I hate dealing with linux bullshit and mac is intolerably locked down. Windows for better or worse is still the middle ground.

[-] kava@lemmy.world 1 points 55 minutes ago* (last edited 54 minutes ago)

there was a vulernability on the iphone a while back where someone would send you a specific hindu character and it would crash the OS. it can get you no matter what you do really, use or business. the difference is a business has a lot more to lose.

as for the OS talk..

I use MacOS on my macbook & Linux on my desktop at home. I don't think Mac is intolerably locked down. I have virtually the same experience on both. Mac is a very smooth experience once you set it up how you like. I have the same command line applications, the same config files, the same firefox profile that gets synced in between them, same unix utilities that share folders/files as if they were native, can ssh from one to the other, etc

including windows in that would be a PITA

windows is clunky and the company pushing it is becoming progressively more hostile to its users. apple is greedy but at least with their OS it's not pushy. it's the hardware where they stick the knife and twist in terms of price

[-] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 1 points 24 minutes ago

Glad you have something that works for you. πŸ‘πŸ‘οΈπŸ‘„πŸ‘οΈπŸ‘

[-] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 19 points 13 hours ago

Can I give them 50 dollars and not have to use windows at all?

[-] hayes_@sh.itjust.works 7 points 9 hours ago

Heck, I’ll let you not use windows for $49.

Isn’t the free market great?

[-] tb_@lemmy.world 14 points 12 hours ago

Better yet: you don't have to pay Microsoft at all to make the switch!

[-] linearchaos@lemmy.world 6 points 11 hours ago

I'm really surprised they haven't managed to push Azure Linux into the fold. Release a desktop version, Find some way to make attractive for all those Windows 10 people ready to walk away. Then just slowly fold all the bullshit back in. They could even bring the gui completely Windows 10esque

[-] InnerScientist@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

The problem with that would be that it would make switching to another linux ditribution very, very easy. They would have 99.99% compatibility so a lot of people would switch to another distro if they add stuff like recall.

They would also be opening the can of worms that is massive software support for linux (which is arguably already opening.)

[-] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 hours ago

No because platform capitalism has capture tge software ecosystem and leverages you own human capital against you.

[-] lone_faerie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 102 points 22 hours ago

Remember when Microsoft said Windows 10 would be the last version of Windows?

[-] Petter1@lemm.ee 33 points 12 hours ago

The last usable windows, maybe

[-] boonhet@lemm.ee 19 points 17 hours ago

Hmm, but did they say the last version of Windows, or the last version of Windows you're going to buy? And if it's the latter, is the upgrade to Windows 11 free? If yes, then technically it's still correct.

[-] spicehoarder@lemm.ee 10 points 13 hours ago

I just wish I could buy a copy of windows 11 that didn't have any telemetry or AI.

[-] ugjka@lemmy.world 5 points 13 hours ago
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