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[-] Luci@lemmy.ca 74 points 1 year ago
[-] Fisk400@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

🌻🌻🌻

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[-] andallthat@lemmy.world 65 points 1 year ago

"Putin tells ____ any _____ is attack on Russia" is basically a meme now

Cool. Poland ain’t gonna start shit.

Any attack on Poland will trigger Article 5.

[-] takeda@kbin.social 24 points 1 year ago

Poland won't, but according to Hitler in September 1st, 1939, Nazi Germany was defending itself from Polish attacks.

I think putin is thinking of forcing Belarus with Wagner to attack Poland and see how NATO will react when the threat would be war with Russia (if NATO will respond, which I hope it will, I think Belarus will get the same help as Armenia).

[-] magnetosphere@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago

I think NATOs response would have to be a strong, decisive one. No NATO member wants the Alliance to look weak. Nobody wants World War III, either, but I think they’d conclude that showing weakness is riskier than calling Putin’s bluff.

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[-] Spacebar@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago

Belarus better stay within its boarders, because that the only way Belarus will be attacked.

[-] takeda@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago

I think after Poland ignored two Russian missiles, putin is thinking to use Wagner from Belarus to test and see what will happen if NATO country gets attacked. The normal answer would be that it would be war between Belarus and NATO. Which should be fairly quick. He is trying to tip the scale by saying Russia will be also back Belarus if attacked (BTW Hitler also stated WW2 claiming Poland attacked Nazi Germany), hoping that NATO won't back up Poland.

[-] Speculater@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

I'm pretty sure Ukraine said those were their missiles.

[-] mihor@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

Indeed they were. Ukrainian S-300 missiles, they probably malfunctioned and went off in a random direction.

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[-] magnetosphere@kbin.social 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No, Putin. An attack on Belarus is only an attack on Belarus. Someone would have to attack Russia for it to be an attack on Russia. Look at a fucking map.

(Yes, I’m being obtuse, but giving this asshole a hard time makes me smile. Cut me some slack.)

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[-] xuxebiko@kbin.social 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Putin's standup act is very funny. He should quit his day job & take it up fulltime.

[-] Luci@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 year ago

Idk, last guy who laughed at him had his country invaded.

[-] xuxebiko@kbin.social 28 points 1 year ago

Putin's been invading Ukraine since 2014. His 3-day special operation is going on for 514 days, had him running from a mutiny (I need a ride,not ammo!), has killed 241,330 Russians, has the Kerch bridge opening and closing like a fucking accordion, and is a global criminal. And all against a country with no nukes, no navy, barely an airforce, a tenth of Russia's defense budget, and 28 times smaller than Russia.
He's losing so badly, the whole world's laughing at him.

As I said earlier, Putin's standup act is very funny.

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[-] MrVilliam@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Oh no, I'm shaking in my boots. It sure would be a shame if the might of the Russian military invaded my country. They're having trouble invading a small, neighboring nation by land, but I should totally fear them crossing an ocean to invade a nation that has an objectively superior military. Maybe if I defend him online, Putin will spare me. Notice me, Putin-san! uwu.

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[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.ml 24 points 1 year ago

So is Belarus going to attack Poland now or is Putin planning a false flag attach again?

[-] takeda@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

I think it's probably Wagner was moved there for that reason and putin wants to test if alliance will be afraid to reason.

If NATO responds then he sacrifices just Belarus, but if it won't then other eastern countries are at risk.

Wagner already found out before, but we can do it again I guess. And the rest of NATO can tag in too, this time.

[-] takeda@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't think he cares about Wagner, he wants to see if NATO backs up Poland if Poland is attacked as a response to Poland "attacking" Belarus.

BTW: Poland doesn't have stellar reputation in the west, primarily because of politicians who attack west and strangely are warm towards Russia. One might say "what do you mean? Poland is very anti Russia" and this is true with most Poles, but the ruling party still continues fighting with the west, some even say that they don't know which enemy is worse, west or east, like WTF? Then there's a Konfederacja populist party by Russia which is fully against west and its leaders advocated to improve relations with Russia. Most members of course are less open and saying that we should give Russia what it wants or we get attacked.

That was also the only party that demanded our politicians to apologize when a protester splashed Russian ambassador with red paint at the beginning of the full invasion.

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[-] Hupf@feddit.de 18 points 1 year ago

This night for the first time Polish regular soldiers fired on our territory. Since 5:45 a.m. we have been returning the fire, and from now on bombs will be met by bombs.

[-] Granite@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Can you cite a source?

Edit: thanks for the sources

[-] geeking_introvert@kbin.social 19 points 1 year ago

It is from a famous speech of Hitler that marked the beginning of the second world war.

[-] takeda@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[-] maynarkh@feddit.nl 5 points 1 year ago

That's one very weird source you're linking.

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[-] TurnItOff_OnAgain 14 points 1 year ago

I'm not up to snuff on NATO regulations. As I understand it, if a NATO nation gets attacked, the rest of them are obliged to defend, correct? What happens if that nation is "the aggressor". Like in this situation if Poland were to do a first strike against Belarus or Russia and they respond attacking Poland, is the rest of NATO obliged to help defend Poland?

No, NATO doesn't interfere if a member starts a war. It's a defensive treaty. That said, Poland alone wouldn't be able to do much, and democracies rarely openly declare war.

[-] DauntingFlamingo@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago

I had a deployment with Polish soldiers. They are a modern and extremely capable defensive force. It would likely turn into the same thing we're seeing in Ukraine (smaller force that is well trained and better supplied vs sending a lot of bodies and old tech). I don't think we'll ever see a Polish led force invading Belarus or Russia without a massive NATO backing and a lot of foreign units already on the way to support them. Defensively, they will fuck you up. Offensively, they don't have the man power to go deep into enemy territory.

The Polish have historical grudges with Russia and are chomping at the bit to hurt some Russians. It is probably NATO that is holding them back from sending units to Ukraine

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[-] Jaysyn@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago

Putin says a lot of stupid shit he's incapable
of doing, why would this be different?

[-] PanPuszek@reddthat.com 8 points 1 year ago

Is it only me or does Putin look really bad in this photo? I mean he seems unhealthy and in addition to that he looks like he aged 10 years in just 2. Amazing speedrun.

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[-] Speculater@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

At this point they should just annex Belarus.

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