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[–] WaterSword@discuss.tchncs.de 39 points 2 months ago (4 children)

I’ve never seen these age limits be actually be unforced. The age limit here in the netherlands is 13 but go on youtube and you see way younger kids comment and post

[–] meneervana@lemm.ee 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I too, have my doubts on how this age restriction will be enforced, besides the parents

[–] GenosseFlosse@feddit.org 5 points 2 months ago

In YouTube comments I can never tell if it was from a boomer, bot or 10 year old ...

[–] troed@fedia.io 2 points 2 months ago

Us parents help the kids skirt the age limits since they're simply stupid.

[–] Jayjader@jlai.lu 1 points 1 month ago

The only one I have heard of being enforced is on twitch; an account can be banned in under 5min once it suggests in a stream chat that it's holder is under 13 years old.

[–] DavidGarcia@feddit.nl 28 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Samvega@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

There's only one person on Social Media and all they post is "help i am old".

[–] NegativeInf@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

"I've fallen and can't get up!"

[–] Sekoia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 27 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I don't think this is gonna work. You can't just ban something like that, you have to provide alternatives, and there aren't any. There needs to be a Club Penguin-type "kids internet". Course, dealing with children's data is "too expensive" (and risky), so that's not gonna happen.

[–] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I don’t think this would solve some of the issues they would need to solve, one of the main issues being bullying which is done by fellow children.

I don’t know that it would even solve the issue of predators as they would find a way on to a children’s only social media site and still be able to get access to kids. I believe it would be even worse as a children’s only one would instil false confidence in parents that’s it’s a safe space and the same can be said for the children themselves, believing everybody is a child on there.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

man if only there were some kinds of open source software which the government could host for children to use

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Fuck that. These laws almost always seem like a move BY surveillance capitalism to ID all user traffic, using the state (regulatory capture or bribery) under the guise of "child protection". If we lived in actual democracies, instead of capitalist plutocracies, the easiest way to universally apply this and preserve civil liberties would be to incorporate a broad age indicator — "adult", "teen", and "child" — into every web comms protocol. If it were at the OS / browser level parents could then setup a child or teen account and, unless the child figures out the admin password, they're stuck with it; every request their device makes to the Internet will include it.

Then every site would only be responsible for checking that value and required to block "child" &/or "teen" from specific services or content... That's basically how ID's work when you visit your local alcohol dealer or sex shop - "adult" / "not adult" is all they need to know ... Hell, ban all advertising, data capture, use of analytics in content discovery, etc for non-adults. Let children use the internet the way it was before parasites took over. No friction for every user. No requirements for people to hand over their PII to countless corporations (which should be limited as much as possible). No games of whack-a-mole. At the end of the day there will always be workarounds, but it's the parents responsibility to monitor their children; not the internets, or rest of society.

[–] jo3rn@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 months ago

Hell, ban all advertising, data capture, use of analytics in content discovery, etc for non-adults.

Wait. You mean no social media AND no ads?

I would browse the internet as a "child" all day.

[–] GenosseFlosse@feddit.org 2 points 2 months ago

It's very easy: don't store data besides email and password, so nothing can be stolen.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The tiny thumbnail looked like tits being blurred out on my phone screen. I was a Lil confused about why such an article would have used that picture at first. Lol

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

Very lax dress code in Norway. Did you see that documentary, Not Another Teen Movie?

[–] NanoooK@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 months ago

Good, their algorithms are toxic.

[–] telllos@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

I got the email from Google that my son's account would have no more restrictions when he turn 13. I feel it's really early.

[–] Mojave@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Yeah just like kids don't watch porn before 18, right

[–] germanatlas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 months ago

Im sure it work just as well as making porn sites 18+

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl -3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

This will definitely harm children, but I guess it will help more children than the number of children it harms. Still, I think no laws should be created that will cause harm to children.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

How can this harm children?

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Whenever you take away peoples access to information and social groups, you cause them harm.

Its the same as trying to teach abstinence to children or hiding them from information about drugs. Its better to teach children about sex and drugs so they know what is safe and what is not safe then leaving them in the dark, where they'll end up doing the unsafe things and learn the hard way

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 month ago

Beer is nutricious, but that doesn't mean you should ignore the very damaging effects of alcohol and give it to children. Children should not be on social media unsupervised. Social media isn't a source of information.