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Which is the better option + spinning a vm is possible and ltsc the only issue is I have to repirte a windows license for ltsc(and according to Microsoft ltsc was mostly designed for embedded systems) thanks for any help and I decided to post it on the linux community bcs I couldn't find a suitable place to post it and this is related to linux but man I love linux tho and if I go with the jumpship method I have to sadly leave some games behind like roblox (it's fine due to some moderation issues bad games etc etc but ngl its a fun game ik sober exists but i kinda dont wanna use a android emulator to play roblox i could use it since its our only option for linux and also i need to wait some time for my affinity subscription to end orrrr i try running it on bottles/wine again)

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[-] flashgnash@lemm.ee 3 points 1 hour ago

If you have a laptop and a desktop put it on the laptop fully rather than dual boot

Until proton came out I kept dual booting but I always ended up booting into windows because I didn't know how to do x on Linux

When I just wiped windows completely and put it on my laptop I distro hopped for a bit but never went back

Ended up switching my PC over too after about 6 months and I no longer own any windows machines, nor feel the need to besides the odd firmware upgrade of a peripheral or something

[-] Presi300@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

I'd say dual boot. Jumping ship from windows to linux without it is very hard, especially if you enjoy playing a windows-only game or rely on windows-only software. A virtual machine can work for some basic software, but you need to do GPU passt trough to the VM to be able to game at all, which is a... let's just say not insignificant amount of messing around and configuring stuff.

[-] Mwa@lemm.ee 1 points 2 hours ago

I can quit all the windows software it's not hard for me

[-] Presi300@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

I'd still recommend dual booting, just in case...

[-] Mwa@lemm.ee 1 points 2 hours ago

hm around 24 people recommend to fully delete windows, 8 recommend dualbooting, yeah i counted it.

That’s not a good sample though. This place will shill Linux all day long and are biased in that direction.

I am contemplating the same, but the amount of time I’ll have to put into figure out if I can use my 4060TI with it, or what games I’ll be able to play etc and configure it how I want it is not a small amount of time or research.

[-] Mwa@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago
[-] tikimusic@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

Dual boot and give it a shot.

[-] Mwa@lemm.ee 1 points 3 hours ago

Yeah I did I was using linux more and more

[-] Default_Defect@midwest.social 7 points 9 hours ago

Something I did that helped make the jump was buying a separate drive to put linux on and removing my windows drive. It makes the act of switching back to windows take more effort, but didn't remove the possibility altogether.

I also got an enclosure for my M.2 and can use the windows drive as a super fast thumb drive and use that to transfer the files from the windows drive that I care to keep on linux. (none of it is critical, not worth doing proper back ups)

[-] flashgnash@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago

This is a great middle ground suggestion

[-] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 3 points 8 hours ago

All advice here seems to focus on linux, but I'd say rip that bandaid off first. Go cold turkey on roblox. That shit is the worst cancer to come out of something that was fun initially.

Not in four months to a year. Yesterday. Learn to control your impulses first and the rest will fall into place, whichever way you go.

[-] Mwa@lemm.ee 1 points 3 hours ago

It's also bcs of affinity btw idk why i didn't mention it

[-] Nyanix@lemmy.ca 15 points 12 hours ago

Why wait? Dual boot, get cozy, still have the ability to go back to Windows if needed, find alternative apps, and soon enough, you won't need the Windows partition :) Worked for my partner, my brother, and myself

[-] secret300@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 13 hours ago

Start using it now in a VM. Linux has gotten very user friendly over the years but it's still a completely different system with different design philosophies. Ease into it now and test the water with different distros

[-] toastal@lemmy.ml 25 points 17 hours ago

When I left for Linux I had to give up League of Legends. I sucked it up, & after a month, I was fine without it & it was better since I knew it wouldn’t be worth the effort even trying to install it on Linux.

[-] alphapuggle@programming.dev 18 points 17 hours ago
[-] toastal@lemmy.ml 4 points 13 hours ago

I am happy Arcane is good tho. Knowing the characters makes it a more fun & engaging. They built some good art & lore.

[-] alphapuggle@programming.dev 4 points 10 hours ago

Arcane is a fantastic series, eagerly awaiting the next season. Even my sister is into it (and as far as I know she has no clue what League of Legends is)

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[-] Allero@lemmy.today 4 points 12 hours ago

You'll never be wrong by making it dual boot - if you won't need Windows, hooray, but if you will - it's still there, always has been.

[-] Vilian@lemmy.ca 10 points 16 hours ago

Dualboot definitely, don't belive anything other than that, taking slow the only good way

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[-] solrize@lemmy.world 40 points 23 hours ago

should I completely jumpship to linux when windows 10 ends support

Nah, there's no need to wait.

[-] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 10 points 21 hours ago

I'd recommend dual booting right now so you can transition over a longer period. Also make sure your chosen distro supports dual-boot. Technically any distro can dual-boot but if it doesn't support dual-boot you'll have to put in some extra effort to make sure both can boot safely and easily.

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[-] thedeadwalking4242@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago

I jump shipped to arch when I first started out. But I had experience with Linux vms for school already

[-] data1701d@startrek.website 9 points 18 hours ago

I would almost recommend GPU passthrough if you have a dual GPU system and can figure it out. It definitely takes a bit of tinkering, but I like the results: I now have both a Windows 10 (maybe will become 11, maybe 11 LTSC) and a Hackintosh VM. It's not as good if you only have one graphics card, through. If you're up for it, I used this tutorial. If it's an AMD card, though, make sure to check my issue for any steps relating to that.

As for dual boot, get a second drive if you can. I find it helps me avoid a lot of the misery, although I very rarely actually boot up Windows anymore - just a VM if I really have to (which I do for MATLAB because my university is ridiculous and I figure if I'm going to use an evil programming language, I might as well use it in an isolated, evil environment).

[-] KingRandomGuy@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

I'm a fan of dual booting AND using a passthrough VM. It's easiest to set up if your machine has two NVMe slots and you put each OS on its own drive. This way you can pass the Windows NVMe through to the VM directly.

The advantage of this configuration is that you get the convenience of not needing to reboot to run some Windows specific software, but if you need to run software that doesn't play nice with virtualization (maybe a program has too large a performance hit with virtualization, or software you want to run doesn't support virtualized systems, like some anticheat-enabled games), you can always reboot to your same Windows installation directly.

[-] data1701d@startrek.website 3 points 8 hours ago

I can see that. I nuked my Windows partition years ago, though. Honestly, if I find a software is jerk enough to block virtualization, I don't find it worth using.

[-] KingRandomGuy@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago

Fair enough! I think it's more common for games to do that, but sometimes I had trouble with software on Windows that used virtualization elements themself. I probably just didn't properly configure HyperV settings, but I know nested virtualization can be tricky.

For me it's also because I'm on a laptop, and my Windows VM relies on me passing through an external GPU over TB3 but my laptops' dedicated GPU has no connection to a display, so it would be tricky to try and do GPU passthrough on the VM if I were on the go. I like being able to boot Windows on the go to edit photos in Lightroom, for example, but otherwise I'd prefer to run the Linux host and use the Windows VM only as needed.

[-] data1701d@startrek.website 1 points 6 hours ago

Yeh, I think it has to do with some CPU topology crap. I have it working pretty well, luckily - I once had an old Virtualbox VM with MacOS that I needed, and I was able to boot it in my Windows VM.

With Lightroom, you're right on that. Honestly, the state of FOSS image editors is a bit ridiculous, especially considering how good FOSS vector editors like Inkscape are these days compared to their commercial, proprietary counterparts.

[-] KingRandomGuy@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

Yeah there's a good chance you're right. Maybe something to do with memory management as well.

Long term I'll probably end up switching back to Darktable. I used it before and honestly it is quite good, but I currently have a free license for CC from my university and the AI denoise features in LR are pretty nice compared to the classical profiled denoise from Darktable. It does also help that the drivers for my SD card reader are less finicky on Windows so it's easier for me to quickly copy over images from my camera on there instead of Linux. Hopefully that also gets better over time!

[-] snake@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

Interesting, I’ve never heard of softwares that don’t support virtualized systems, I mean how would they… know?

[-] KingRandomGuy@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

I don't know exactly, but it's apparently a thing. Some game anti-cheat software such as Easy Anti-Cheat will give you an error message saying something along the lines of "Virtual machines are not supported." Some are easy to bypass by just tweaking your VM config, others not so much.

[-] anamethatisnt@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

In some cases they look for generic virtual hw devices, in other cases things like available cpu flags or BIOS version.
There are ways to hide it though:
https://github.com/zhaodice/qemu-anti-detection
https://forum.proxmox.com/threads/how-do-i-hide-the-fact-to-windows-that-it-runs-in-a-vm.115627/

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[-] crony@lemmy.cronyakatsuki.xyz 56 points 1 day ago

Jump the ship, I did 6 years ago, before even proton was a thing when games worked witha lot of thinkering.

Nowdays you habe so many great games working you won't mind a couple of games not working because of all the other playable games.

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[-] bloodfart@lemmy.ml 12 points 20 hours ago

You should set up dual boot now so you don’t get surprised by differences when support ends and you feel the need to switch to an ltsc sku or use Linux.

Don’t wait, prepare!

Keep a hold of windows for a little while so that if something critical comes up that you can’t figure out you have a fallback.

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[-] eugenia@lemmy.ml 12 points 21 hours ago

Why wait? There's no need for Windows, unless you're running some super-specialized app. The new versions of Windows already have telemetry and privacy issues, so why just go with minimal security options that MS is selling you? You can do almost everything in Linux just as well, if not better, than Windows does at this point. Start with Linux Mint, which is the most Windows-y distribution and you should be golden.

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[-] Kongar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 23 hours ago

I’ve been a dual / triple / god knows how many OS booted since the 90’s.

Windows has gotten into bad habits lately - it’s not staying in its lane. Meaning it hasn’t respected other boot partitions for a long time, and recently there seems to be a lot of people having problems with windows nuking their linux installs.

My strong recommendation is to buy a second hard drive if you dual boot. Then windows can be “over there” - I’ve never had a problem dedicating ssds to the OS. My second recommendation is to do this now, why wait until you’re forced into something? You’ve got a year to learn Linux and get comfortable with it.

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[-] sirico@feddit.uk 20 points 23 hours ago

The longer you wait, the more distros we'll have to argue about when you ask for suggestions

[-] nous@programming.dev 23 points 1 day ago

Why wait? Start using Linux friendly software in your day to day workflows. Then start to dual boot Linux with your current system and start using it more and more. By the time windows 10 reaches EOL you will know if you still need a Windows install or not.

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[-] millie@beehaw.org 1 points 13 hours ago

Honestly I'm considering just using Windows server 2022. I've got it running on my dedi and it's great. I don't see any reason not to just install it on my pc too.

[-] GustavoM@lemmy.world 7 points 20 hours ago

You can always consider the experience of using Linux as a "game" itself and DU ET NAO!

...no really. Do it.

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