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DON’T INVITE HIM to your Palestine event.

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[-] polskilumalo@lemmygrad.ml 72 points 3 days ago

denied Uyghur genocide

Stopped reading right there. I'm never treating seriously anyone spouting this bullshit, especially someone calling themselves "socialist".

[-] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 21 points 3 days ago

It's a common Western "leftist" thing, they believe literally everything spread about AES by the fascist West.

[-] The_Filthy_Commie@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 3 days ago

You made it further than me, I stopped right here.

[-] stink@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 3 days ago

Is this a bit I'm new here sorry

[-] carpoftruth@hexbear.net 58 points 3 days ago

go read the UN OHCHR report from 2022 and come back. that is the maximally 'china bad' analysis of china's approach to preventing terrorism and extremism in xinjiang.

https://www.ohchr.org/sites/default/files/documents/countries/2022-08-31/22-08-31-final-assesment.pdf

this document was prepared by an organization that is not sympathetic to socialism or china and yet it does not use the word genocide once.

contrast this with south africa's ICJ submission on the genocide in gaza from late last year - https://www.courthousenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/South-Africa-v-Israel.pdf

[-] stink@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 3 days ago

I'm hip to the propaganda by westerners, glad to have sources now though. Didn't recognize the sarcasm 🤦

[-] polskilumalo@lemmygrad.ml 20 points 3 days ago

I wasn't sarcastic, I was commenting about the writers.

[-] stink@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 3 days ago

Oh yeah I meant the original poster lol

[-] CarmineCatboy2@hexbear.net 49 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

the bit is believing that the same 7 european countries + USA and Canada - who spent the last 20 years killing millions upon millions of muslims across the world - are totally concerned about the lives of the few muslims they cannot bomb into submission. ie those in sovereign countries like China.

the punchline is the notion that every muslim country except NATO member Turkey has been bought off by an evil chinese conspiracy to also deny the uyghur genocide.

the PS.: is that those same countries who are totally concerned about Uyghurs are now conducting an actual genocide in Palestine.

[-] stink@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 3 days ago

Oh yes okay, didn't realize u guys were sarcastic about it LMAO

Was groggy when I wrote that and couldn't understand hexbear cancelling a based take

[-] miz@hexbear.net 19 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

The Xinjiang Atrocity Propaganda Blitz | Red Sails

EDIT: oops you've already had that linked. instead of deleting, let me offer you these links about what westerners wrongly refer to as "Tiananmen Square Massacre"

[-] ihaveibs@hexbear.net 59 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

In a time when World War 3 seems just on the horizon, a western settler colonial project is actively genociding Arabs, and the global South is being increasingly squeezed by financial imperialism, we need to come together as socialists and focus on the urgent, pressing issues: stopping the tankies.

Side note: I keep seeing these ultraleft/anarchist wrecker types bring up Tigray. Can anyone explain to me why?

[-] RedWizard@hexbear.net 45 points 3 days ago

Let us admit that deep down, our problem with the tankies, is that they seem to be having a lot of fun in those tanks. I mean, have you seen what a tank does to a Toyota Corolla when you drive over it? Just pure joy, and we are joyless because we are tankless.

[-] ihaveibs@hexbear.net 30 points 3 days ago

It's all just so fucking stupid. I hope they protest the event so he can just go off on them lol.

[-] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 23 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Skimming a bit:

I guess the formerly Marxist-Leninist Tigray Liberation Front was the one who crushed the 'tankie' DERG, which was admittedly f-ed up, however, when they ruled from the 1990s to 2010s, they seemingly did jackshit, if not worse, for Ethiopia, with its Tigray sectarianism and opposition to the two other main ethnic groups: the Amhara and Oromo

Ultimately, when a new president of a different came to rule, they started a western-backed civil war against them

[-] glimmer_twin@hexbear.net 38 points 3 days ago

“Tankie ideology is fundamentally racist”

Against who, Hungarians?

[-] Maturin@hexbear.net 23 points 3 days ago
[-] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 20 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Against who, Hungarians?

Damn Hungarians, they ruined paprika maddened

[-] CliffordBigRedDog@hexbear.net 5 points 2 days ago

magyarphobia

[-] grandepequeno@hexbear.net 43 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Like I always say, if you live in the first world and actively oppose the third, you effectively support the first world (imperialism)

Also I don't recognize any of those losers

[-] plinky@hexbear.net 39 points 3 days ago

While we are all actively opposed to US imperialism

actively

define actively

[-] RedWizard@hexbear.net 36 points 3 days ago

I'm sure their twitter account is active.

[-] HelltakerHomosexual@hexbear.net 6 points 3 days ago

yet even that is focused on 'tankies'

[-] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

"We are actively opposed to US imperialism but also we are more opposed to the principal opponents of the US empire and we we buy into all of the propaganda lies directed at the main targets of imperial aggression."

If this is what actively opposing US imperialism looks like then i would like to please ask these people to stop doing that and just start supporting US imperialism instead.

Because either they live in opposite land where saying you are against something means you actually support it or they are plain lying and at least this way they'd be open and honest about their support for imperialism.

[-] Fishroot@hexbear.net 13 points 2 days ago

Western left keeps doing purity test to global south movement and ostracize themselves to the point of joining the neo-conservatives camp

[-] Sodium_nitride@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 2 days ago

Western left keeps doing purity test to global south movement

And refuse to apply the same standards to themselves. Without a hint of self awareness of course.

[-] HelltakerHomosexual@hexbear.net 16 points 3 days ago

i hate leftcom purists please may they debate themselves into nonexistence

[-] CaliforniaSpectre@hexbear.net 6 points 2 days ago

Have you seen Socialism 4 All on YouTube? He's a huge anti-Dengist and even made a community post the other day promoting the Green's over PSL, saying in the comments that PSL are revisionists on China but should know better because of some 2007 article from their liberation school which is I guess harsher on China than they are now. I read some of the article and it seemed to be saying that capitalist restoration sucks, but that any replacement of the CCP would lead to a much worse situation for the Chinese people overall. And then goes into a historical and class analysis of why China ended up where it is. It's annoying because he does great work making audiobooks for everything but he has BadEmpanada streamer syndrome in droves for sure.

[-] HelltakerHomosexual@hexbear.net 1 points 20 hours ago

nah thats just normal anti revisionism tbh

[-] CaliforniaSpectre@hexbear.net 1 points 19 hours ago

Where's the distinguishing line? Earnest question

[-] HelltakerHomosexual@hexbear.net 2 points 19 hours ago

the line is like denouncing china and calling it inherently anti socialist. the proper thing is to critique the 'socialist' market economy. Criticism to improve instead of to just hate on china to fulfill some lib ass requirement.

[-] SadArtemis@hexbear.net 23 points 3 days ago

As always, burger-brain faux-leftists are the scum of the earth. I wouldn't spit on those """leftists""" to help them if they were on fire.

[-] ButtBidet@hexbear.net 24 points 3 days ago

We are a network of socialist and leftist organisers united by a conviction that workers’ self-emancipation, anti-imperialism, decolonisation, anti-authoritarianism, internationalism and feminism are integral parts of a socialist politics for the 21st century. We are alarmed by the growing influence of US-centred campist politics spreading on the left.

So let's, a group of mostly Australian and Kiwi "leftists", go after an Indian guy.

Also there's nothing else on that page. I Googled "People Against All Imperialisms" and there's no org.

[-] glimmer_twin@hexbear.net 17 points 3 days ago

As an quokka-smile trust me when I say that anarchists that call Melbourne “naarm” are one of the worst parts of our slacktivist class.

[-] CommCat@hexbear.net 16 points 3 days ago

These are the "leftists" who would've supported (by not being against) the NATO bombing of and destruction of Libya, because "both sides bad".

[-] ButtBidet@hexbear.net 15 points 3 days ago

I found the org that probably initiated the campaign. Consider bullying them.

https://x.com/AKPeaceAction/status/1847173630763123008

[-] LibsEatPoop@hexbear.net 26 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

AKPeaceAction/status/1847173630763123008

On their about page:

3/ Disrupt and shut down the military-industrial complex in NZ and globally through non-violent direct action and respecting a diversity of tactics.

Like...how? Seriously, how? Like, I'm not saying non-violent civil disobedience isn't a good strategy - it has worked in the past against some governments in some situations. But... tell me fucking how do you intend to non-violently shut down the goddamn military-industrial complex globally.

What the actual fuck.

Like, do you even hear yourselves?

[-] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

"And remember to be especially non-violent against the poor innocent machines making the genocide bombs and death planes. As tolerant leftists (not evil tankies) we have to respect the MIC's private property, otherwise that would be bad optics."

[-] combat_brandonism@hexbear.net 10 points 3 days ago

respecting a diversity of tactics

violent ones too, right anakin-padme-2

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