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Someone call Alanis Morisette 🤣
It sued itself in its confusion!
This isn't very effective.
LMAO. Fuck Nintendo and the "do as I say not as I do" BS.
Emulation is perfectly legal if you own the game.
And yet Nintendo files bogus copyright claims against emulators.
They're not bogus. The emulator that shut down were selling a product using a proprietary encryption key owned by Nintendo.
That's why Dolphin still exists.
Proprietary encryption key
What if the key was in a book? It would have to be protected by free-speech, which makes it uncensorable.
What if the key contents were used as hex values to make a flag? Would you censor a flag too?
No such thing as "proprietary encryption keys" exist.
I disagree. Sure, companies have a moral right to recoup their R&D costs on a console, but I fully reject the Divine Right of Shareholders. As long as the emulators aren't sold for profit and no one is hurt, a multibillion dollar company like Nintendo has zero moral ground to tell us that we cannot emulate consoles that we have bought to play games that we also bought.
The emulator they shut down was being sold for a profit. They haven't gone after Dolphin, which is free.
And ryujinx?
Well the dev closed it without any public c&d...
Maybe the thousands of copyrighted images of amiibos hosted on https://amiibo.ryujinx.org/ ?
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Nintendo: Money! Fuck everything else.
All other attributes derive from that.
This really isn't that surprising. They used ROMs for the classic games in Animal Crossing. They even had evidence it was from a release group, and not Nintendo's own copies
I really don't understand why this is embarrassing. I don't know the exact setup they have going on. Is it like a kiosk where people can play classic games, or is it a monitor just displaying them? They have their own emulator, Canoe, that they used for the SNES Classic. I don't remember the name of the NES one
Weren't at least some of the games in the Super Mario Collection ROMs? I guess I can see why people would expect a direct port from the company that created it, or original hardware running the original games, but it isn't like Nintendo doesn't already have a track record for this sort of thing
It's embarrassing because of how extremely litigious Nintendo is, and that they are themselves profiting using other people's work (emulators and/or ROMs acquired from the internet), the exact thing they ruin lives over.
I would have thought its embarrasing that they couldnt provide real hardware for an official museum
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This means you can find the pc and get THEIR OWN EMULATOR, make it open source and fuck them royally.
You think they wrote their own emulator instead of just taking one of the free ones on the internet (who they will likely sue later). That's cute.
Is it a known thing that they discontinued canoe or something?
Well yes, yes they did. It is called Canoe and is for example running inside the SNES Classic Mini. And that is not the only emulator they wrote. Writing an emulator is not some obscure magic, and it is way easier if you own all the schematics and other Information used to build the original hardware.
Implying they have their own emulator and it's not just running retroarch or something
Nintendo has their own emulators for running these games on newer consoles.
If they would do that it would be very useful in court.
It's not illegal for Nintendo to run retroarch.
Its not illegal for anyone else either, but them running such software for profit might be a licensing issue depending on the exact version they use.
It would be interesting to plug an usb rubber duckie to own that station and dump all the disk somewhere
No way
Their NES and SNES mini consoles were also just off the shelf ARM SBCs running emulators. If I recall correctly people even found signatures of release groups in some of the ROMs.
technicians just know what's good. unfortunately every company becomes too big for its own good and inspirationless ghouls take over 😔 the palworld thing also just shows they could be so successful if they take off the shackles and make a good game, but now they want to shackle everyone else so no one can have good games
They are at least Nintendo's own in-house emulators. I don't recall the situation with the Classic systems ROMs, but Animal Crossing had the release group signatures if I'm not mistaken. They've been pulling this garbage for a long time
The nes roms in animal crossing for N64 had the header for the ines emulator. Now, a few years before Nintendo hired a guy who worked on the audio driver for ines, and that tomohiro is credited with lots of emu projects for Nintendo, so it's not impossible that they reused that header idea. In the gigaleak there's a tool that adds the ines header to clean roms.
This said, it's also not impossible that they're taking a peek in other OSS emulators source code, i recall that luigiblood (a guy obsessed in decompiling Nintendo emulators) found traces of 64dd emulator code from pj64 in some Nintendo product, which then was silently removed after he tweeted about that
This is very educational, thank you. Just out of curiosity, what has Nintendo done with the 64dd? I thought they had forgotten about it
Also the Virtual Console releases, and things like the demo games in Smash Bros. brawl,
What's so embarrassing? Emulation for backward compatibility is done all the times
I guess people are assuming it runs whatever third party emulator. It was at least how I first imagined it.
If that's the case, it's in my opinion very embarrassing: attempting to profit from stuff made by the community they act extremely hostile towards.
If not, I guess it's just mildly embarrassing that they have a poorly concealed windows machine taking away from the immersion.
I read through the article, only speculation but since the sound is without a doubt the USB being disconnected then it's pretty obvious an Windows machine running a rom.
Well yeah, but it might as well be their own in-house emulator.
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