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[-] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 2 days ago

doctrinal incoherence

"we need an invisible plane"

"best we can do is make the money disappear"

"deal"

[-] Tabitha@hexbear.net 4 points 2 days ago

In WW2, (me just parroting random armchair historians), apparently Germany had some technologies that were superior on some technical details you could write on paper, but had some costs/issues wehraboos ignore, and the USSR could mass produce things like tanks that were simpler/good enough/practical.

I imagine history having itself a rhyme.

[-] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 days ago

We're seeing the same thing happening in Ukraine today as well. All the wunderwaffe from the west failed spectacularly, while Russia's ability to produce basic things like mass artillery shells is winning the war.

[-] merthyr1831@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 days ago

The next war, if not fought with nuclear weapons, will be fought with industry. China has proven that even with tight controls over technologies supposedly "too dangerous" for China to have, they have the capacity to totally outstrip any American military production simply because the MIC of China is state-driven.

Russia, too, has a MIC largely subservient to the state, as does Iran, which alone has totally embarrassed the US-Israel military hegemony.

For Iran as an example: Indirectly its arming of Hezbollah to the point of repelling a sizeable and complex invasion by a neighbouring nation state. Directly, totally defeating the US-Israel air defence network with old stocks of missiles, and maintaining a fleet of American-made fighter jets through indigenous adaptations.

Without a major political shift to nationalise (or otherwise directly control) the MIC of the US its military advantages are diminishing at an astonishing rate, and Europe is struggling to pick up for the slack.

[-] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 5 points 2 days ago

Wars have been fought with industry since industrialization began. It's the main reason the South lost the American Civil War, why the world wars went the way they did, and so on. Any time you have two comparably powerful states fight one another, it's going to come down to their industrial capabilities.

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