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Which is it? Which do you use? Are there different associations between them?

I've always said it "comrad," but when I started to meet people in orgs, they predominantly say "comrayd" (within the same country).

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[–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 22 points 2 years ago (1 children)

My impression is that com-rad is associated with the USA and com-raid is associated with Britain and Ireland. I'm not sure what the situation is for other English-speaking countries, but if I were to hazard a guess, one pronunciation over the other might be associated with the relative prestige or influence of British and American English for that person, for instance if you learned the word through American media you might pronounce it in an American way. I'm not an expert, though.

I personally say com-rad.

[–] EllenKelly@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago

We're firmly in com-raid territory in australia, also I've had people pick fights with me after i casually called them comrade, that was a trip

[–] hypercracker@hexbear.net 16 points 2 years ago (4 children)

It's pronounced tóngzhì, get used to saying it

however apparently this is contemporary slang for gay in some parts of China

[–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago

however apparently this is contemporary slang for gay in some parts of China

It is from this Chinese slang term that Toki Pona got its word for enby, "tonsi"

[–] merthyr1831@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago

Do you think the slang comes from the homoerotic USSR-PRC propaganda?

[–] idontknowwhattonamemyself@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

it's comraid shadow legends

[–] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago

Cum Raid: Swallow Goons

[–] underisk@hexbear.net 13 points 2 years ago (4 children)

How do you pronounce camaraderie? I’ve never heard anyone say com-ray-dar-e” so I usually go with “com-rad”

[–] OrionsMask@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago

Exactly my thoughts!

[–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago

I'd say "camaraderie" with the vowel in palm, and "comrade" with the vowel in trap.

[–] peeonyou@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

That's also how I remember whether to say "ih-TAL-ih-yan" vs "AYE-tal-e-yan".. there is no "AYE-tal-ee"

[–] Dolores@hexbear.net 13 points 2 years ago

none of the antecedent words contain an 'ayd' sound, i am forced to conclude this is some ridiculous RP british problem, and everyone else is doing it normal

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 13 points 2 years ago

I use com-rad.

[–] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Just stick with /tʰʊŋ³⁵ ʈ͡ʂʐ̩⁵¹/ honestly. If you accidentally use it on an anti-communist you can just say you thought they were a fellow member of the LGBT community.

(I'm American and say comrad)

[–] miz@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

is that a rendering of 同志 in... IPA? doesn't look like IPA to me but I have little knowledge of it

[–] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah it's the Sinological IPA I got from Wiktionary lol

[–] miz@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

TIL how IPA does tone marks with those small numbers. very cool

[–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago

There are a few different ways IPA can represent tone. I've more commonly seen tone represented with ˩ ˨ ˧ ˦ ˥ which can form ligatures like ˦˧˥

[–] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago

Well that's how Sinological IPA does it anyway

[–] Tomorrow_Farewell@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago

Broke: 'comrade'

Bespoke: 'tovarisch comrade'

[–] Aradina@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago

Either, largely depending on accent.

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago

I seldom say comrade since I'm usually in public settings and have to generally avoid drawing attention.

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago

This country had to be british

I call ppl "tovarshi"

[–] Sausage@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago

It’s enjoyer

[–] Lerios@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

i'm dyslexic, i'm pronouncing things how they're written. its comrade and no amount of 'correcting' me wil ever do shit sorry ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–] thetaT@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

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