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Ukrainian troops have dramatically downed a Russian fighter jet over eastern Ukraine as an oil depot was set ablaze by a drone strike more than 100 miles away in Russia.

The Soviet-designed Su-25, nicknamed β€œFrogfoot” by Nato, was downed over Kramatorsk, Donetsk, as it fired on Ukrainian troops.

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[–] espentan@lemmy.world 22 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I never knew Frogfoot was the call sign for Su-25.

Nice to see the Russian ones go down in flames.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 14 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] BombOmOm@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Some of the DCS (military aircraft sim) aircraft have a second seat that is filled with an AI to manage weapons, help with dog fights (F-4, F-14). It's always amusing when you have them paired with a Mig-15 and you hear your WSO yell something like 'We got a fagot on our tail!'. Gets a chuckle from me every time.

Also, MiG-15s turn really, really well. Getting into a turning fight with one is a bad idea. Luckily the two aircraft I just mentioned are much faster than them, so you generally want to just punch it and do quick passes. 'Boom and zoom'

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Jester is such a pussy though - he’s always punching out in perfectly recoverable situa-

BAP

killed in action

[–] BombOmOm@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Yeah........

He also keeps bitching about his spinal surgery that is due after every one of my perfectly cromulent landings. I refuse to believe this is a skill issue. ;p

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Thanks!

Why are they all starting with an F ?

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 12 points 10 months ago

They are not call signs, they are reporting names. Russians don't call it the Frogfoot, it's a name NATO uses to talk about it that's easier to remember than numbers. All fighters start with F, bombers with B, helis with H and if I remember correctly, air to air missiles with A.

The actual nickname the Russians have for the Su-25 is Grach, meaning Rook.

Because they’re all fighters.

All the non-western bomber NATO reporting names start with β€œB”.

[–] psmgx@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Photo says SU-35 while article says SU-25. Would be impressed if it's a 35.

[–] runiq@feddit.org 14 points 10 months ago

Let's meet in the middle; it was a Su-30

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

Love it. Keep it up:) the more downed russian planes the better.

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

have the f16's been brought online yet

[–] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 16 points 10 months ago

Yeah, they've shot down some cruise missiles recently

[–] rbesfe@lemmy.ca 7 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Love when journalists call anything with a jet engine and wings a "fighter jet"

[–] Hawke@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago (2 children)

What would be your preferred terminology?

β€œClose air support aircraft” is a bit awkward.

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 6 points 10 months ago

Jet warplane is correct and broad enough to be accurate. Light bomber is still closer if they want to be specific.

Calling it a fighter is what made the Russian lies about the airliner they shot down sound plausible.

[–] Barbarian@sh.itjust.works 0 points 10 months ago (3 children)

For players of strategy games, CAS suffices. No idea if militaries do it differently. Saying you're going to an automatic teller machine would be awkward to say as well.

[–] Hawke@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

Journalism is only rarely directed at strategy game players though. CAS is not a common abbreviation for the public like ATM is.

[–] BombOmOm@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

"Attacker" is also used commonly for CAS aircraft and is very brief. Fighter, attacker, bomber.

[–] bouh@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

In supreme commander it's Air Superiority Fighter, ASF. Acronyms are a plague if you intend any non specialist to understand anything though.

[–] Lupus@feddit.org 4 points 10 months ago

Meh, close enough for the general public and us nerds know what a SU25 actually is.

[–] k_rol@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What would you call it for the general population?

[–] mods_mum@lemmy.today 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I might be wrong but I think the correct term here is attack aircraft

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attack_aircraft

[–] Lupus@feddit.org 5 points 10 months ago

Or the beautiful German terms "Erdkampfflugzeug" or "Schlachtflugzeug"

[–] lemming741@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Like when journalists call with anything with a barrel and a trigger an "assault rifle"

[–] BombOmOm@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Ah, yeah. Reminds me of this oldie:

[–] TheBlue22@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 10 months ago

Another day, another ruzzian L