stop it Joe : memes

[-] pimento64@sopuli.xyz 50 points 10 months ago

"Well, everybody except for political dissidents, minorities, Jews, anyone who openly disagrees with me, and anyone I suspect of privately disagreeing with me".

[-] Roundcat@lemmy.ca 14 points 10 months ago

Reminder to all my queer friends that homosexuality was criminalized under Stalin's regime, and was not repealed until the Soviet Union collapsed.

[+] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml -14 points 10 months ago

Friendly reminder that that was the standard at the time.

For example, when Germany reunified lgbt people in East Germany lost all their rights.

[+] TheLurker@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

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[+] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml -7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

parasite

Just call me untermensch, I know you want to you scratched liberal.

The US nationally decriminalized being gay in 2003. Fuck all the way off with US 1962.

I know there are no tone indicators over the internet so you missed the exaggeration so I'll say it again without the initial exageration- east german lgbt people lost a lot of rights during reunification

[-] rbhfd@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

I'll bite.

What kind of rights did they lose?

The only thing I can find is the equal age of consent for same-sex relations vs hetero relations: 1988 in DDR and 1994 in Germany post unification.

Seems like a stretch to conclude that communist states were more LGBTQ-friendly based on this 6 year difference.

Look into which countries allow same-sex marriage. The only communist country that allows it now is Cuba. They legalized it almost one year ago!

That being said, communism vs capitalism is an economic discussion. It doesn't necessarily say anything about social issues.

[-] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml -5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

They straight up had state sponsored gay bars and there was a massive state sponsored education campaign on lgbt people. During reunification they also lost massive economic gains, along the same line as what "why women had better sex under socialism" talks about.

Economics issues and social issues can't be isolated. Homeless queer youth are affected by economic policies.

The only communist country that allows it now is Cuba. They legalized it almost one year ago!

Tbf marriage isn't as much of a priority given what rights marriage grants in Cuba. Cuba has been doing SRS for free since 2009 and has sponsored massive education and anti-bigotry campaigns. Gay marriage is important but not that important compared to a bunch of other issues.

[-] Roundcat@lemmy.ca 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Oh so we're applying the founding fathers owning slaves justification to queer persecution? Guess it's okay when everyone else is doing it.

Then again nevermind. I'm used to having our history downplayed by conservatives and reactionaries, including the ones that cosplay in red.

[-] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml -1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

We have no choice but to keep an even more violent system because people who tried a less violent system were sometimes as homophobic as was standard at the time in most places.

Let us ignore the fact that the small island nation of Cuba has the best lgbt rights in the world. Let's ignore the fact that socialism most directly helped the poorest and most vulnerable of gay and trans people with their economic equalization in ways that "progressive" dictatorships of the bourgeoisie still don't. Let's ignore the fact that lgbt rights in the west were won by movements full of radical queer communists, not given out of the benevolence of capitalism.

[-] Batman@lemmy.ca 10 points 10 months ago

Anyone with a disability as well

[-] pimento64@sopuli.xyz 4 points 10 months ago

disability

Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa calm down with the russophobic, sinophobic, orientalist, reactionary liberal rhetoric, pal. The preferred term is "antisocial parasite".

[+] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml -17 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Well everyone except minorities, Jews

First off, sus as fuck that you said minorities and then "Jews"

Second off, the non-Russian SSRs vote at higher rates to remain the USSR during the referendum that reaffirmed that the citizens of the USSR wanted the USSR to stay together before the undemocratic dissolution of the USSR? While there were excesses and passive russification was a problem, minorities generally liked the USSR.

[-] pimento64@sopuli.xyz 5 points 10 months ago

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Best be on your way now.

[-] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml -5 points 10 months ago

+5 FICO score

[-] CompassInspector@invariant-marxism.red 13 points 10 months ago

[-] Sylver@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Stalin Communism is unique. Normal Communism allows the proletariat to embrace themselves and become equal. Stalin Communism allows the proletariat to embrace and become PAPA STALIN

[-] o_d@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 10 months ago

Yeah! Stalin brainwashed the entire population of the Soviet Union. Surely they don't love him for helping to bring about prosperity and wellbeing in a large area of the world that was severely lacking in these things prior to the October revolution. It also can't be because his army was the primary factor in destroying a fascist invasion. It's amazing how so many people are so quick to dismiss the simplest and factually correct answer when it comes to do with anything related to socialism.

[-] gothicdecadence@lemm.ee 0 points 10 months ago

Do we just conveniently forget Holodomor, when Stalin starved millions of Ukrainians?

[-] o_d@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 10 months ago

Lol. Lmao even. Yeah Stalin with his big spoon ate up all the grain leaving none for the people. Forget the fact that famines were just a thing that happened back then. It happened fairly often under tsarist Russia. This was the last famine they would face because the Soviet leadership learned from it how to prevent it from happening again. Again, not bothering to consider the simplest answer because Stalin wanted to starve his own people for reasons.

[-] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml -2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Are we just saying nazi propaganda now? It was turned into a genocide from a famine that the Soviets were partially responsible for by nazi press like hearst press. The holodomor myth was straight up used to excuse the mass killing of Jewish folks.

[-] db2@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago

Our memes

[-] Rooty@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago

The biggest atrocity of this comic is that it's read like a manga

[-] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 16 points 10 months ago

I prefer the left to right reading, where Karl knows what Joe is up to before he even starts.

[-] Roundcat@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago

Stalin:"Watch me end this man's credibility"

[+] BeanCounter@sh.itjust.works 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

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[-] MajorMajormajormajor@lemmy.ca 11 points 10 months ago

[-] pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 10 months ago

what?

[-] Venat0r@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

I don't get it.

[-] OldPain@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

Everyone gets them. Communism. Stalin being a bitch ass.

[-] PissinSelfNdriveway@sh.itjust.works 5 points 10 months ago

Well off to the soap factory for you.

[-] aport@programming.dev 0 points 10 months ago

Everybody gets ~~grain~~ a bullet

[-] glad_cat@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 10 months ago

Everybody to ~~Disneyland~~ the gulag.

[-] dingus@lemmy.ml -2 points 10 months ago

Meanwhile, in the bread lines...

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