Without active traffic data, none of these is an adequate substitute for Google Maps navigation.
That's the price of privacy. Google has that traffic data because there are so many drivers with thier app installed. If you are OK with a giant corporation monitoring your every move, then of course that convenience is a good reason to use thier services.
Data is the new oil.
I'm not sure if traffic is "convenience" at this point. At least where I live, it's a nearly essential piece of functionality.
In fact, for local driving it's often the only reason to use a map app. I already know how to get to most of the places I want to go, I just need to know the best route to avoid traffic now.
For me it is, apparently for you it is not. We have different use cases. That's cool.
Just to be clear, I'm not here to judge. Everyone has thier own life with it's multitude of little and big decisions. It would be presumptuous and ignorant of me to assume what applies to me also applies to you.
The focus should be on helping each other to make informed decisions.
https://www.magicearth.com/ has traffic.
It has traffic so it must have infrastructure to maintain, yet it also claims to be completely free.
How does this project make money?
Best info i could get is that they do a lot of bussiness to bussiness data stuff, and this nav app is like a showcase. That doesn't feel great for long term, but you could use it as a secondary app?
That doesn't sound too bad in the near term.
To be fair I feel like my lazy ass should've read their website further to get the same info, but then again, this exchange might save someone else a minute of scrolling the FAQ.
Why is Magic Earth free? What is the business model?
Magic Earth is free for all our end-users but we also have a paid Magic Earth SDK for business partners. For instance Selectric.de (a supplier for navigation solutions for ambulances and fire trucks), Smarter AI (developing ADAS systems) or Absolute Cycling (using the platform on bicycles). For more info on the SDK, you can check magiclane.com.
Do you share data with third parties?
We send position data to our traffic provider to generate real-time traffic information. The data is anonymized on the phone, using a changing key (so it's not linked to you), and it is deleted after 5 minutes.
Will Magic Earth be Open Source?
No; since it is also used commercially (we have a paid Magic Earth SDK for business partners), we cannot make the code public.
Magic Earth kicks serious ass, it's legitimately performed better than both Google and Apple maps in my area. Searching for businesses is still a little janky, but if you're patient enough to just use Google maps to find a place and then copy the address it's exquisite, seriously.
I've been using Magic Earth for a while and it is quite good. Better interface than OsmAnd and Organic, but I keep all three installed.
If your primary goal is finding out how to get from A to B and not caring about the very fastest way to get from A to B right now, then you don't need traffic data.
I've been using Organic and OsmAnd for a couple of years now after using Google maps for a long time. What I've noticed is that all three seem to prioritise different things when planning routes. Google seems to prioritise speed, Organic seems to prioritise shortest distance and OsmAnd seems to prioritise quieter roads but is very similar to Organic.
For using osm as a map, it's great and very detailed. For cycling navigation it's ideal. And beats Google maps that fails to find a route without a data connection. Like when roaming. And in many poorer countries, where humanitarian agencies desperately need maps, Google doesn't bother to map any details, because there is no money in it for them. Fail again.
And, as with railways, companies love to build new, as you get a monopoly. But maintenance? No financial benefit to doing that.
Maybe for you, but there are use cases where traffic data isn't vital, like driving in small or medium sized towns where traffic doesn't ever get too bad. Or road trips where there is only one feasible route, and any other way would take hours longer.
But yeah, traffic data IS awesome, I'm not arguing with that 😄
For me live traffic is more vital than ever on long road trips, if some traffic pops up hours after I've been on the road and my GPS finds a way around it it can tell me what's up and adjust the route for me on the fly. When my road trips usually consist of north -> south on i95 down the East Coast of the US, it seriously comes in clutch.
~~The northern Virginia/DC metro area has traumatized me one too many times~~
If you appreciate OpenStreetMaps then check out StreetComplete. Its "like" Pokemon Go but for improving maps.
I'm honestly having so much fun getting out in my neighborhood and completing quests
Same!
this is great but i'd also recommend contributing and editing your local area in openstreetmap.org too.
In trying to find privacy-oriented map software, I found OsmAnd as well as OrganicMaps and shortly thereafter began contributing to openstreetmap. It’s actually quite easy and IMO fun to find discrepancies and use your knowledge to help an open data set.
Not only have I seen my edits show up in proprietary softwares, but the area around me is more accurate, to the point where recent construction to the road network was updated on OSM and Apple Maps, but not Google maps.
I just checked and Google maps is still out of date.
I've been very satisfied by OSM map apps (mostly use Organic Maps) but my main issue is the lack of places and that's why I use Google Maps mostly.
Edit: actually found https://mapcomplete.org/ which aims to kinda do that? Still exploring but seems really cool so far.
StreetComplete is another good app for adding details to the map, and it lets you select the type of things you want to add 👍
What is really frustrating to me is that my county actually has almost all of the data (including outlines and address numbers) publicly available and downloadable. There is a Wikipage on Open Street Maps written in 2020 talking about how that data has been downloaded and prepped and that it will be imported in 2021, but it never was. The wiki page was last updated 3 years ago.
I'm technologically competent enough to add things individually on OSM or StreetComplete, but that import is way above my technical understanding. I would love to donate or maybe even pay someone to finish what was apparently started, but I don't even know who to contact about it.
Get OSMand~ from fdroid so you don't have to pay for the fully featured version on Google Play
Fdroid reports some seriously sus anti features, although I know it can be over dramatic. Anything to be worried about?
It's the same app as what's on the Play Store and if you're worried there's always...
https://github.com/osmandapp/Osmand
Tada!
OsmAnd has the full app on F-Droid.
Locus Map is not FOSS, and OsmAnd works great for hiking, biking, etc, soooo....
Been using osmand unfortunatly it doesnt have numbers on streets and can't plan public transport.
The house numbers is due to map data being incomplete. You can help with that by adding data with an app called street complete its free and on playstore. We need more people adding data to osm or it will never get better
Ive been adding with some app i found on fdroid but i feel my efforts are just a very tiny drop in a very very large bucket.
Everything that exists in OpenStreetMap is from tiny drops
If you add your area like I added mine then its definitely helping
Alternatives to Google Maps aren’t great. The only place where I find Organic Maps better is China, since the authorities have stunted GM there.
For driving in Europe I find TomTom better (whereas both Apple Maps and Google Maps are better in the US), but in terms of POI Google reigns supreme.
Locus maps seemed interesting to me. I was surprised it was not available on F-droid. I found it on the Aurora store though. Contains ads and 4 trackers (google and facebook). Google play services is a dependency.
I'll stick with osmand.
For the cyclists here I just want to mention cycle.travel, which is hands down the best route planner I've ever used for nice bike rides which are direct but avoid nasty roads. It doesn't have an app (that I'm aware of) but you can use the website to generate a gpx track which you can import into OsmAnd and use to navigate offline.
Organic Maps tugs our heartstrings by their commitment to privacy. The app can run entirely without a network connection and comes with no ads, tracking, data collection, and best of all no registration.
In my experience this applies to OsmAnd too. Please correct me if I'm mistaken though.
I'm looking for one that works well on Android Automotive. So far I couldn't get OsmAnd to show the Android Auto UI on the full OS, or integrate with the home page (split screen music / maps), and none of the others I tried in F-droid worked at all. I need something because I'm tired of using my phone, and I don't have Google services on my tablet (flashed with a custom build of Lineage / Android Automotive OS).
It would be nice to have an open source version of the big screen systems they're putting in the newest cars...
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