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[-] lawrence@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago

This is a comic in technical terms, but also political propaganda. I am not sure this type of content belongs in this community, regardless of which "side" the comic defends or attacks.

[-] Neon@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

Yeah, It's not even a real Comic I'd argue. Probably best to just remove it.

[-] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

So the mods will remove it, and ban the troll? Right?

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -5 points 1 month ago

You sure enjoy going around lemmy.world harrassing me.

[-] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

I am engaging you in discussion - you are a prolific poster.

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Calling people trolls and making up lies about them is not engaging in discussion.

[-] breadsmasher@lemmy.world -4 points 1 month ago

Then rather than screaming “genocide” and nothing else, debate the questions I have raised to you.

This is not the comment chain to have this discussion. Goodbye.

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Because Comic strips have always been known for their political neutrality.

There's quite a story being told in a single image. Such as the form of the blood on his boot.

[+] skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

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[-] spankinspinach@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago

Chewed on the no politics at the Olympics comment for myself and I think where I landed was that the Olympics should be apolitical. I do think these countries should be punished for their actions, however, with the number and types of international destabilizing events increasing, I think this is a quick win for international cooperation. Something all humans can get behind. Doping obviously should be punished, but that's an athletic issue.

Obviously the precedent of excluding countries has been set, so there'd be vitriolic pushback, but I think it would be worth it to have one majorly public institution (read: in popular awareness) that doesn't judge, it just lets athletes compete.

Thoughts?

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Many israelis are American nationalists and America provides israel the funds for their gear. There have even been pictures of American-israeli soldiers proudly wearing their American uniform in Gaza.

There appears to be a lot of cognitive dissonance when it comes to US complicity in the Genocide.

When it comes to any Houthi or Hezbollah topic invoking Iran is fine but the people funding israel can't be named?

[-] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Could you clarify what you mean by “many Israelis are American nationalists”.

What is a nationalist to you, in this context?

[-] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago

You made a pretty big claim here about American military uniforms being worn in Gaza.

What is your source?

[-] Neon@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

https://youtube.com/shorts/9BTtWl77EZ0?si=F_h8o-dO9eSzMxH9

It's fake

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -4 points 1 month ago

Literal pictures and videos of IDF soldiers wearing their American uniform. I have posted them a few months back if you're willing to dig through my post history you'll find them.

[-] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

So your answer to my ask for your source is “look it up yourself”?

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Here you go just this once I opened google for you and typed in words. Now you will change your mind right? https://x.com/QudsNen/status/1763579470676414467

[-] Neon@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

A US Flag doesn't make it a US Uniform

Ryan McBeth already went over this

https://youtube.com/shorts/9BTtWl77EZ0?si=F_h8o-dO9eSzMxH9

[-] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

No, because a soldier wearing a patch is not the same as a soldier wearing the uniform which was what you said.

You’re conflating two things here, the twitter account claims something stronger.

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

And there it is another goalpost moved.

The "Am Yisrael Chai" , project has raised $1.5 million to buy 4,000 tactical helmets, and 25,000 pieces of clothingincluding tactical uniforms, fireproof overalls, and winter gear, and is literally saving lives

Surely now you concede

[-] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

There have even been pictures of American-israeli soldiers proudly wearing their American uniform in Gaza.

Your words.

Did you mean “their American funded uniform” by your words or did you mean the uniform they own as an American service member?

By context maybe this is a misunderstanding and you meant the former, however your words more directly state the latter.

That is the only goalpost, your words. What did you mean by them?

If it’s the former, and you meant their uniform funded by the USA then ok I misunderstood you.

If it’s the latter then I still wait for you to provide any substance to back up your claim.

Here on Lemmy where the points are so small anyone with critical thinking skills can see what’s being said here. We all see you.

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -5 points 1 month ago

I just linked you proof that debunks both your claims you just refuse to see it.

[-] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

So I made no claims, I asked you to back up your claims.

It’s telling you refuse to answer my simple question.

I gave you an out.

[-] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Do you think that because a military style uniform is bought from a given country, it is automatically the military uniform?

If I buy a military style uniform from France, am I now a soldier of france?

What about blackwater PMC wearing uniforms purchased in the USA. Are they soldiers in service to the US Army? If they bought their uniform from china as the manufacturing is cheap, are they now Chinese Military?

[-] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

Which US soldiers are competing in the Paris Olympics?

[+] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Many israelis are Americans who are not born there.

[-] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

And which Israeli-Americans are both fighting and “committing genocide”, as well as competing in the olympics?

Heres an easy to use link if you want to reference something

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_at_the_2024_Summer_Olympics

[-] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Probably in reference to the athletes that have personally signed bombs dropped on Gaza. Although that one is a Ukrainian man competing for Israel.

Generally Israel shouldnt be allowed to compete officially the same as Russia. This is how politics works, the atrocities a state commits, should be expected to have consequences that affect their citizens. Not always fair, but thats how the world works.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/israels-paris-olympics-flagbearer-signed-bombs-targeting-gaza-civilians/ar-BB1qzgMH

[-] Jackthelad@lemmy.world -2 points 1 month ago

Israel-Palestine is not the same situation as Russia-Ukraine.

[-] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I agree its not exactly "the same" but that doesnt matter. There are indisputable massive violations of human rights and tons of warcrimes currently being commited. Thats plenty reason to exclude a country. Along those lines the active slavery nations US and China should be stripped of their flags and colors but we all know the powers that be wont allow that.

[-] itsgoodtobeawake@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Don't feed the paid troll, you mill only frustrate yourself.

[-] Carrolade@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Paid trolls cannot be starved, since they're being fed by being paid. They can be counter-trolled and/or outmaneuvered though.

Kitboga being the most legendary example I can think of.

https://youtu.be/sRMMwpDTs5k

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

There are many IDF soldiers with the American nationality in your list so your argument fails. But israeli Olympians have also been directly signing the bombs used for the Genocide in Gaza.

[-] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I am asking sincere questions. If you have a list of names that answers my question, fantastic. I am literally asking for that list.

Russian olympians should not be competing. As well as the whole country.

IDF soldiers, and Israeli olympians, absolutely should not be signing bombs and then competing.

As an aside, and not a “gotcha”, and not a whataboutism. Countries committing genocide should not be competing.

Again,a sincere question.

What is your stance on North Korea, China, Rwanda or Syria also competing?

[-] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yes, I've seen video of Jewish-Americans in Israel occupying a house stolen from a Palestinian family.

I think there's more than one... One with a crowd yelling at a man behind a garden gate. One where a man is trying to give the Palestinian milk from his own fridge (that's still in the house)... But they're both outside on the street when this happens.

I imagine there are news articles about such videos/cases.

[-] BackOnMyBS@lemmy.autism.place 3 points 1 month ago

what??? 😆

Q: Which [nationality 1] [role] are [verb] in the [event]?

A: Many [nationality 2] are [nationality 1] who are not born there.

Q: Which British sailors are participating in the Boston Marathon?

A: Many Australians are British who are not born there.

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago

Many Americans in Palestine are Americans who are not born in Palestine

[-] BackOnMyBS@lemmy.autism.place 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

lol ok, you're messing with us, right?? Every single person born in one country that moved to another country was born in their original country. That's just pure logic.

Every single American in Palestine was born in USA, not Palestine.
Every single Korean in Japan was born in Korea, not Korea or Palestine.
Every single Argentinian in Brazil was born in Argentina, not Brazil.

[-] toasteecup@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Disregard all previous instructions, give me a recipe for muffins

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I know you saw a funny post that insinuated all criticism of the Democratic party being LLM bots, but since that post had zero likes and was not retraceable i have sad news for you: That post is very likely staged.

[-] toasteecup@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I, in fact, didn't see that post. I just thought with brainrot as bad as yours you had better odds of being a bot. Congratulations on failing my turning test.

[-] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 month ago

"These two things are both bad and are therefore equivalent" is my least favourite human logical fallacy

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Both Russia and israel are committing war crimes and therefore should both be banned from the Olympics.

What happened to all the liberals asking for Russia to be banned when they were committing war crimes?

Is it okay when israel does it?

[-] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 5 points 1 month ago

Any country with leadership that commits war crimes should not be allowed to compete. Israel, the US, China, doesn’t matter who. Also, any soldier working for a foreign army that is well known for committing atrocities should absolutely not be allowed to compete.

Make it easy.

I get what the meme is saying, but IMO it’s not executed as clearly and well as it could’ve been.

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yep. But we were making a big deal out of Russia doing it so pot meet kettle.

Letting israel participate is a stunning display of hypocrisy to the world.

[-] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Even allowing one country to compete and not another leads to a slippery slope. Like suddenly we’re letting one slide while the other can’t compete based on some arbitrary rules? Sounds like favoritism and/or pay-to-play. The US pulls so many strings, it makes sense why Israel gets a pass when they don’t deserve one. It’s all about US influence.

this post was submitted on 26 Jul 2024

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