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[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 41 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Fucking hell. I thought we were done with this bitch.

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

As long as Mat Stavrer can keep bilking her (and idiot Republican supporters) for more attorney's fees, we'll never be rid of her.

[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

When I saw the headline I legit thought maybe the website had some crazy error and put a really old article on the homepage lol

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago (2 children)

They wrote that, “even if substantive due process is not itself overturned, Obergefell should be, because the right to same-sex marriage is neither carefully described nor deeply rooted in the nation’s history.”

Where is marriage "carefully described?" As far as "deeply rooted in the nation's history," would that include the lifelong bachelor, president James Buchanan? How about Thomas Jefferson and his slave he was not married to, but took around publicly as his mistress? How about Ben Franklin fucking every woman, married or unmarried, that was willing?

[–] HonkTonkWoman@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

“Deeply Rooted”? This country isn’t even 4 Joe Bidens old, our deep roots are slavery & smallpox blankets.

E: credit to Mark Agee for the 4 Bidens thing, I knew I’d heard it somewhere…

[–] ChihuahuaOfDoom@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago

Ah ha, there it is.

[–] testfactor@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I'm betting 5-4 in favor of throwing this out.

Gorsuch came down hard on Bostock, which makes me think he'd be skeptical of overturning Obergefell (which he wasn't on the court to rule on originally).

Roberts is married to process well enough that I don't think he can find it in himself to violate stare decisis on a case he was actually chief justice for, even if he did vote against the first time. Plus a lot has changed since 2015, and the court took a hard swing right. The dude has always kinda been that middle man referee, so I think that's another drop in the "would shoot this down" bucket.

That only leaves Alito, Thomas, Kavenaugh, and Barrett. Alito and Thomas will always vote for the craziest possible position, so they're right out. Kavenaugh and Barrett are more of a coin toss, but I lean towards them having their own, separate dissent if Bostock is any indication (which Kavenaugh dissented on, but not with Alito and Thomas. Barrett had yet to join.)

So my gut is that this isn't going anywhere. I'd honestly be surprised if the supreme court even took it up.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I hope you're right. Otherwise, it would leave the nation in a legal quagmire as marriage would be legally defined differently in different states. And I think that it could also usher in the re-introduction of anti-miscegination laws.

[–] Drusas@kbin.run 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Thanks for teaching me a new word today!

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Which word, miscegination? Not a great word to learn.

[–] Drusas@kbin.run 3 points 2 years ago

That's the one. It's a shame to have to know it, but I'm glad I do now.

[–] root_beer@midwest.social 2 points 2 years ago

Which, of all people, Thomas would gleefully allow

[–] Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Ugh, this horrible woman again?