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When you compare Biden to Trump vs. the effects on the Palestinians, were Trump president again, he would not just help the Israelis exterminate the Palestinians, but encourage them to do so quickly- as he's already told Bibi to "finish it". So your dichotomy is more than a bit disingenuous .

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[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 21 points 3 months ago

If our only standard is not a Republican, then everytime Republicans lower their standards, they lower the only other option's standards too.

It's not fucking sustainable.

[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago

You know I hear people say this and and yet the Democratic Party is further to the left than it was under Bill Clinton. So how does it follow? I mean I hear people say stuff like we keep moving further to the right and the Republicans certainly are, but I see a Democratic party that's for gay rights and that didn't use to exist. I see a Democratic Party that's that's talking about higher taxes on the wealthy and trade regulations and consumer protection Acts. None of that was true in the '90s. In the 90s the Democrats said the era of big government is over. Now Democrats are supporting good government policies. We can certainly support better government policies, and I personally would like to see them go much further , but I can't see a scenario in which the Democratic party isn't further left than they were.

[-] kerrigan778@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

The democratic party didn't even universally support abortion rights not that long ago.

[-] vonbaronhans@midwest.social 2 points 3 months ago

This. This all day long.

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[-] Rooskie91@discuss.online 20 points 3 months ago

Remember how blaming individuals solved climate change, too?

[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 months ago

I'm starting to suspect that Taylor Swift doesn't even care what we think!

[-] humbletightband@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 months ago

I remember!

[-] jaschen@lemm.ee 15 points 3 months ago

Ummm.... Trump will turn UP the genocide.

[-] Somethingcheezie@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

Way more pro Israel rhetoric that any Biden comment but he then doubles down with lots of anti Palestine comments.

[-] vonbaronhans@midwest.social 2 points 3 months ago

Yeah I'm not sure how to take this post. The image is clearly both-sides-ism but the text of OPs post on it appears to be calling that bad.

This posting format makes sense in specific subreddit/communities like /leopardsatemyface or /whitepeopletwitter. But here it just makes it unclear what the intended message is.

[-] Narauko@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

If the choice is between genocide and genocide + fascism, and there is no viable option 3 without genocide, then the argument is still embrace the genocide or democracy ends. The alternative is embrace genocide and who really needs all this democracy anyway?

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[-] ceenote@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

It didn't all happen in 2016. Fascists have been quietly diminishing the power of the electorate for decades now. We'll keep on having "the most important election of our lifetimes" until we manage to undo the damage. IF we manage to undo the damage.

[-] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 2 points 3 months ago

If we manage to have any more non-sham elections.

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[-] DAMunzy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 3 months ago

Your dichotomy of saying we have to pick between the Turd or a Douche is disingenuous.

[-] MrMcGasion@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago

As someone who voted 3rd party in 2016 and regrets it. While you are technically correct, the last 8 years have shown that there is so much more on the line than what I was protesting against with my 3rd party vote. I didn't like Hillary Clinton's positions on war. And sure, my vote probably wouldn't have mattered all that much as I live in a very red state, but every time the Supreme Court does some bullshit, I feel a bit of regret that I didn't use my vote to support the best candidate who actually had a chance.

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[-] Milk_Sheikh@lemm.ee 9 points 3 months ago

In exchange for raising money and investing in the DNC, Hillary would control the party’s finances, strategy, and all the money raised… This victory fund agreement, however, had been signed in August 2015, just four months after Hillary announced her candidacy and nearly a year before she officially had the nomination.

Emphasis mine. It was a captured field, with a performative primary - Hillary/‘s campaign abused their position against a broke DNC and elevated herself above all others.

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Emphasis mine. It was a captured field, with a performative primary - Hillary/‘s campaign abused their position against a broke DNC and elevated herself above all others.

Supreme court also ruled that this was fine and very cool, very legal.

[-] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

This is why young people need to vote in every election especially the local ones, even the ones that seem insignificant like a school board election. The only way for a Bernie to win a primary is if such a candidate is not an outlier. The entire party needs to move to the left and that starts from the ground up. Since people need to get exposed to more left wing politicians so left wing ideology becomes more normalized and at the moment it's not.

When young people vote you get people like AOC and Omar into office. The only way to get a Bernie elected is if there are more AOCs and Omars filling seats in local, state and the federal government. From the school board all the way up to the Senate.

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[-] multifariace@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

The DNC failed to put in a non-establishment candidate, so the Republican voters made it happen.

That huge failure continues to haunt this country while the DNC and the Republican voters double down on their mistakes.

[-] Assman@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 months ago

Too young to remember how bloodthirsty Hilary was as secretary of state. Member when "we came, we saw, he died tehe"?

[-] Milk_Sheikh@lemm.ee 21 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

A lot of retrospective handwringing forgets this, or the vile comments that came out during Bill’s multiple sexual assault allegations.

Hillary was not the right candidate to fight Trump, Jeb Bush more likely. After Obama, returning to an establishment candidate was a mistake, and I don’t care if “it’s her turn” after stepping aside in 2008. Politics has real consequences for people who don’t vacation in the Hamptons.

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[-] wieson@feddit.org 3 points 3 months ago

There are some elections between 1929 and 1939 that would be more consequential.

[-] whygohomie@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

If he had more votes in the primary, then that could have been true despite the superdelegates. As it would be true for any other candidate.

But he/they didn't, and here we are moping over something that didn't happen years ago while the USSC lays the final stones in the foundation for an actual dictatorship.

Bold strategy. Let's see how that works out.

[-] humbletightband@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 months ago

Nostalgia is a good tool against anxiety, but it may perturbate the notion of reality

[-] S491@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

I love that I get to choose whether Palestinians get the slow death of starvation and disease or the fast death of bombs and bullets

[-] TWeaK@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago

How is a screenshot of a twitter post a meme?

[-] TheTetrapod@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Twitter screenshots make up, like, a third of all memes at this point.

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