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Advocates urge murder prosecution charges against Big Oil for heat wave deaths (www.salon.com)
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[-] 555_1@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago

If Boeing isn’t getting the noose, neither will they.

[-] Barbarian@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 months ago

Never happening, but even if it was wouldn't the correct charge be criminal negligence? It's not like the companies killed those people in a calculated, pre-meditated way. They're "just" externalities.

[-] MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 7 points 4 months ago

Isn't this what manslaughter is for, if you want the conviction ? I get why mens rea may not apply here, but bringing it into question may make it viable next time, which would be worthy (or likely I don't understand law well enough).

[-] Barbarian@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago

I'm not a lawyer, first of all! I'm not very knowledgeable either.

Mens rea, as far as I understand it, definitely doesn't apply here. Bringing it into question undermines the case if you're trying to build a conviction around it. Better to have a wide variety of provable smaller claims than one big ticket item you're doomed to fail, as far as I understand it.

[-] MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 2 points 4 months ago

Wasn't saying it applies, just that it's required for murder (1st degree anyway) as the headline spoke. You're probably righter than me, though.

[-] Steve@startrek.website 6 points 4 months ago

Hyperbole undermines credibility

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