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A successful assassination would've been the worst.
Do you really think if Hitler was assassinated anything changed? Maybe a leader with the same goals but without brain rot would've taken over, and not made critical blunders.
If people wouldn't support Putin, he would be long dead by his closest men.
Republicans would have the same agenda but without the guy blurting it out whenever he can.
The machinery is running and you have to stop the machine, not the messenger.
The RNC starts today. The Republicans would have to scramble to pick a candidate for president the weekend before they show off their candidate for president. It would have caused chaos for them.
People always say this, but I think it's a rather facile analysis.
Fascism when fully instituted basically doesn't work as a governing ideology. Many countries have tried it and many countries have found that out.
Sure, there's sometimes encampments; there's sometimes secret police; there's sometimes using the military on your own countrymen; there's sometimes genocides; there's sometimes surveillance; there's sometimes lots of things...but you know what it always breeds? A government full of distrusting, incompetent, loyalist boobs that are slaves to one man's dumb ass ideas.
There is no competent version of fascism because one man alone cannot "fix it". Even a singular genius cannot rule a modern country based upon just his own ideas, he has to have a group of competent people surrounding him, triaging issues, and analyzing different things...those type of people don't tend to want to work for the type of backbiting, dark triad narcissists that nearly always sit at the center of fascist government.
Fascism leads to dark, terrible things, but it's basically always, at its heart, a kakistocracy.
gestures broadly at recent SCOTUS decision stripping menial day to day bullshit from experts at their respective agencies to Trump shill judges
History would disagree with you. How many dictatorships ended with the death of the dictator?
The dictators usually get killed after they have been thrown over.
How many assissinations have there been that support your claim?
Not every dictatorship is fascist.
EDIT: Besides you were originally making the argument that there could be a "more competent" Trump which is what my reply was talking about. Fascist governments are, in my opinion, inherently incompetent. Even the whole "Mussolini made the trains run on time" crap was just rhetoric and propaganda.
There are other forms of government by effectively one "chosen" person (i.e. dictatorships), and I don't think they necessarily have to be fully staffed up with incompetents in the same way fascist regimes naturally have to be.
Well the US is headed for civil war one way or another, unless they get rid of their current supreme court.
Trump is very much an iconic, celebrity like figure. If you cut off his head, im not sure the republican hydra can magically regrow another head that does what he does.
Imagine one of his sycophants taking control, asserting his authoritarianism in His name. Imaging Cheetoh-head up on the the cross, where now he can be your idol regardless whether even he would be that extreme