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The governing body said the fine was for "unseemly or inappropriate behaviour during the race and damage to the image of the sport".

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[-] HejMedDig@feddit.dk 13 points 4 months ago

Team No Fun strikes again!

I think the fine is for stopping during a TT, which clearly shows he is not actively racing. Regardless though, he and his local cheering squad did more positive for the sport than UCI ever will accomplish

[-] JayleneSlide@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago

The UCI could fuck up a wet dream. They actively harm the advancement of bicycling. Whenever the UCI starts administering a race type, that whole industry sector is permafuct. Disc brakes (regardless of how one might feel about discs) were banned for many years, resulting in delay of that technology despite the demand being there. Recumbents are a superlative bicycle design for most humans, but thanks UCI ban.

One of the main reasons gravel bikes have innovated so quickly is because the UCI has yet to stick its stupid nose into the races. But they'll be along shortly to ruin the fun.

[-] Fuzzy_Red_Panda@lemm.ee 0 points 4 months ago

The UCI is also transphobic and doesn't let trans women compete with cis women.

[-] ZealousSealion@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 3 months ago

The UCI's stance on trans women is not transphobic. In line with other sporting federations, they have found that going through male puberty gives a person who transition afterwards an advantage over cis women. So, they have decided to have prioritise the fairness of competition. There are plenty of valid reasons for criticising the UCI, but this is not one.

[-] Fuzzy_Red_Panda@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

they have found that going through male puberty gives a person who transition afterwards an advantage over cis women

Did they also find that short women have an advantage over tall women? How about lighter women having an advantage over heavier women? How about women having an advantage for having more muscle mass? How about people with androgen insensitivity syndrome? Or XX male syndrome? Intersex people?

My point is people will always have advantages somewhere (and there's no clean place to draw the line); no two people are built the same, which means you absolutely can have -- and do have -- trans women (who went through a male puberty) with no advantage over cis women. The UCI won't even allow those women on a case-by-case basis, which is absolutely 100% transphobic.

An actual solution is to divide racers up by skill class and stop gender segregating sports, and to stop caring so much about who wins, but that will never happen as long as money is involved.

Everyone cries about "fairness to women" and "fairness in women's sports" when what they mean is "keeping sports exclusively for cis women"; trans women are women, but almost no one cares about fairness for them.

[-] ZealousSealion@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Trans women are women. And I will continue to treat them as such. But if we do not discriminate within competitive sports, most disciplines will be for men only. Because sexual dimorphism. Not good. So we have a league for women, that let most women compete for their medals and titles independent of the mens' results. Much better. Not perfect, better. Are there enough for a third category? A fourth? Life sucks.

But you don't have to care about winning over others. You can get on your bike and compete against your previous times. And you will probably do so in mixed company. In casual races, all competitors are often despatched together.

Or if you really want to compete, even though you don't fit into the boxes neatly, try equestrian sports. The boxes are much roomier. The saddles are also much more comfortable, and your sex and gender does not matter.

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