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this post was submitted on 07 Aug 2023
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Someone will implement it.
The protocol itself is decentralized. Which is good.
If a app wants to use a central service to search thats a option available to them.
Userbase don’t care about how the tech works under the hood - user base sees no content and goes back to Reddit.
The original poster asked why.
I was answering why
If they can't bother with investigating the platform for 10 minutes, I think they should stay on Reddit and keep complaining about the awful app and website over there.
Winning tactic. I’d like to stay a place with people with knowledge and interesting viewpoint, regardless of their ability to find search services on other websites to locate content.
At this very moment, there is a choice between two options
Hopefully in the near future some features such as the one highlighted by OP will be integrated in the platform, but right now, it's not, which is why I said that if people cannot search a bit about the current state of Lemmy, they should probably head back to Reddit. And I say that hoping that once the platform is polished enough, they'll come back.
How does posting and reading posts work - and how do you know that nobody tracks their users? I was under the assumption that admins of a node have totals access to data going in/out/through their instance.
Just have a look at the data accessed by the apps, both stores display them. It's something else than the Reddit app.
There might be some data agregation on the server side indeed, but compared to the ads promotion machine than Reddit has become (and even announced openly, with subreddits now being platform to promote products), it's a completely different story.
What app? As far as I’m concerned there’s no reason to believe that fediverse users aren’t tracked. Probably not all, but where there’s users interacting with each other discussing different subjects there’s money to be made, and data to sell to AI companies for training.
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The app works between an instance/server and the user. This does not affect what the admins/owners of an instance/server can track.
It's already better than what Reddit does with its app then.
If you want to improve your privacy, browse Lemmy using a VPN and a fingerprint protected browser such as Mullvad browser, and you're pretty much set against potential data collection from our instance admin. You can even share your account with a few other people to make your ghost profile harder to populate.
I’m not sure you understand how the fediverse works on protocol level or how posts are stored. None of what you suggest will protect you. There is no way you can protect yourself from tracking by those with access to raw data.
I'm indeed not sure we are talking about the same thing.
You are talking about tracking the data and selling it to AI for training.
I don't even know why AI companies would bother with buying that data when they can just parse that information directly from the website and then train their model on it.
I was talking about selling user profiles to advertising companies willing to reach specific potential customer audiences. In that scenario, the measures I explained prevent your profiling.
Thanks for the heads up.
I'm not exactly sure what features are up to the admins and which are standard. If there's a server that implements this and mine doesn't, I can definitely see myself switching.
Based on https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/list, your instance has 29 active monthly users. You might indeed want to switch to an instance such as lemm.ee and its 3602 amu. You can use https://github.com/CMahaff/lasim to do so.
Sh.itjust.works, sopuli.xyz and reddthat.com are also solid options. I'm on sopuli and my All feed is the same as on Lemmyworld
So, small instances are bad if you don't want to rely on third party services to find other communities?
Gee, what great design. Thank you for defending it for me and telling me to just switch to a different server. That really is the solution.
You seem to be quite a negative person.
That's okay, but I don't think that adds much to the discussion.
I offered you a solution to the very issue you are facing. If you are unhappy with it, you can probably just leave this place.
Have a good day.
This is a solution for 1 single person. It doesn't solve the greater problem that the experience is VERY inconsistent for new users depending on whether they got lucky and first joined a large instance or if they got unlucky and joined a small instance. It also doesn't retroactively repair the horrible first experience that new users have with lemmy.
What you offered really isn't an solution as much as it is mansplaining...and that's not really helpful at all when what we're talking about here are the perceptions of new users.
You didn't really offer me a solution nor did you answer my question. You also made the sny remark, "If they can’t bother with investigating the platform for 10 minutes, I think they should stay on Reddit and keep complaining about the awful app and website over there."
You're unwilling to take any criticism of lemmy. You are the kind of person that prevents it from getting better and more accessible to a general audience.
I'm sorry for not giving you praise for not contributing anything of value.