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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago (4 children)

"Project 2025 should scare every single American," Biden said. "It would give Trump limitless power over our daily lives and let him use the presidency to enact 'revenge' on his enemies, ban abortion nationwide and punish women who have an abortion, and gut the checks and balances that make America the greatest democracy in the world."

Remember less than 24 hours ago Biden said he wouldn't really care if trump won as long as Biden felt he "tried his best"?

Logical consistency is a big deal for Dem voters but Biden and the DNC keeps wanting to treat us like Republican voters who have the memory of goldfish and zero standards.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It’s pretty goddamn baffling and more than a little bit infuriating, to be honest

[–] fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Perhaps I'm mis-remembering account names, but it seems like every comment from you is trying to undermine progressive votes.

[–] StinkyOnions@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Yes givesomefucks is a propaganda account. You can downvote and move on.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

For future reference, you can click on a username to see post history

Although, I feel like you were just looking for a way to insult me that you don't think will violate civility rules...

Since we're asking questions tho:

Why have I noticed most of the accounts saying we have to stay with Biden are from Australians?

It's just a super weird coincidence I've noticed, because I've started waking up every morning to a couple pro-Biden replies, and they're almost always from accounts that live in Australia but comment on American politics a lot

What's the deal with that?

[–] fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don't have any interest in insulting you... and pretty much just too lazy to read your comment history.

I can't speak for other Australians, bit I'm fascinated by US politics. It's an absolute shit show and it serves as a cautionary tale for the rest of the world I think.

As to why we're passionate about supporting biden... this is just supposition but:

Firstly voting in Australia is compulsory, so the idea of voting even if you're not really enamoured with the options is more palatable. That said, we do have preferential voting so it's not really the same.

Secondly the US is a close ally. US international policies are in many ways our own defacto policies. In some ways we would be burdened by a trump presidency.

Thirdly, and this is probably more "me" than Australians in general but I strongly believe that most conservative voters here are voting against their own interests for the wrong reasons, yet we seem to be leaning further and further to the right like everywhere else. I see criticism of Biden more or less the same way. They may be valid concerns but you still need the guy to win.

[–] willya@lemmyf.uk 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Is it just a funny name or something? Like mine, I don’t live in the UK.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Huh?

They already said they're Aussies and just fucking around with shit they don't know about.

Are you trying to ask how I knew they were Aussies when they almost exclusively post to UK and English political subs?

[–] willya@lemmyf.uk 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I’m saying I don’t live in the uk and obviously am on what looks like a uk instance. So if I comment on USA politics does that look weird? All I was getting at.

You didn’t mention that they admitted to living elsewhere and were just fucking around with USA politics for the hell of it.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I mean, they didn't till I asked if they were an Aussie...

It's just someone insisting we stay with Biden doesn't make logical sense to me, so I've been trying to figure out why which is pretty difficult because they really don't like explaining how they got to their position.

In doing so I've noticed they tend to not be from America, and have no real idea what it's like over here. They just know Biden is currently president, and thinks that means he's most likely to win this election. Also the "waking up to" is a pretty good tipoff. Australia and the US have alternate waking hours. "Americans are asleep" is a pretty big meme and had been on Reddit for over a decade.

I dunno, lots of shit that seems obvious to me, other people just never seem to out together . And I know how thats gonna sound. But it is what is.

[–] willya@lemmyf.uk 0 points 2 years ago

Not a tip off for me. I still haven’t went to bed yet lol, but yeah there’s gonna be a lot of weirdness everywhere on the internet for this crap and will get crazier by the day…

[–] Icalasari@fedia.io 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I feel being willing to admit there is a severe problem is a bit more important than remaining consistent. Now if he goes back to saying, "So long as I did my best, then no regrets"...

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

Go back to saying that?

When has he tried to take it back?

It's still out there because he meant it.

They're both true statement.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Biden probably doesn't remember saying that, to be fair.