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He's guaranteed to lose now. I can't see a universe where the mental gymnastics add up to deciding that this is a good idea. Don't get me wrong, it'd be funny as hell. But I'm really not looking forward to the idea of more Trump.

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[-] Frank@hexbear.net 33 points 4 months ago

It seems like the only people who can get access to him are a clique of his immediate family and long time advisors. There doesn't seem to be an actual political party in the conventional sense. We're dealing with weird dynastic politics and power cliques.

So, it sounds like it's not so much "they", the dnc, are going to run him again, as that Jill and Hunter are going to run him again, and the rest of us can hang if it means Hunter gets some pardons or whatever it is they believe they're doing.

It's all fucked, there's nothing resembling a democratic process or even an organization behind this.

[-] TheDoctor@hexbear.net 13 points 4 months ago

There doesn't seem to be an actual political party in the conventional sense.

This seems like it has larger ramifications

[-] TechnoUnionTypeBeat@hexbear.net 7 points 4 months ago

maybe-later-kiddo we can't worry about that right now, maybe when there's not a freakin Cheeto who's going to destroy all of democracy! Then we can maybe talk about the late Holy Roman Empire dynasty holding onto power (but if you try and talk about it we'll scold you as a Russian shill)

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 3 points 4 months ago

I've been chewing on it for a while now. I don't think the Democrats are a political party. The GOP is. As much as they're weird mutants, they do have rigid party discipline, clear goals, and long-term strategies that have been extremely effective in realizing those goals. The fabled "Demographic shift" that was supposed to save the Democrats seems like fantasy now; The GOP has seized control of critical organs of government, entrenched itself to protect against electoral upsets, and can more or less rule by fiat via the SCOTUS.

Meanwhile the democrats have none of that. They're a squabbling band of also-rans who couldn't hack it in the GOP, lead by the coldest, most bloodless monsters on the planet. I think most Democrats are losers who had the narcissistic self-aggrandizement to be politicians, but lacked the courage or gumption to try to make it in the nazi-breeding alchemical furnace of the GOP. The Democrats are where these losers end up, pursuing safer, less taxing madness in the Democratic party. There are a few genuine moralists in there, too, who are misguided or fanatical enough to believe in the propaganda version of liberalism.

But as we can observe - There's little meaningful difference between the parties. The GOP are just democrats who are honest about what America is and proud of it, while the Democrats lie to the public and possibly to themselves about their goals and desires.

And when you've got a "party" of cowards who can't admit to themselves what they really are, and feel the need to make a superficial play of resistance to the GOP, you don't have much to align on. So most of them are craven opportunists, you end up with New York and California where all the scum who would be GOP are Dems because that's how they can access wealth and power. Their leadership are all Nazi liches of untold decrepitude and malice, so the Dems who actually believe in anything have no chance of pushing their agendas through. They're all absolute slaves to capital. The party is just so shot through with contradictions that it can't possibly advance any cohesive plan or enforce party discipline. They couldn't even deal with Joe Manchin, whether he was the designated Judas Goat or not.

You can see it in the leadership - Obama wouldn't codify Roe, Hilldawg ran with an anti-abortion VP, Pelosi stated there was room in the Dems for anti-abortion freaks, and Biden has been opposed to abortion his whole career and let Roe die without even token resistance. Meanwhile Abortion has been their most unifying propaganda asset for decades. It's all a sham.

So you've got a couple of cliques of warlords - Obama, the Clintons, Pelosi, the Bidens, and whoever else isn't too senile to function, trying to keep a lid on things while their minions jockey for access and power. Then you've got the vast swamp of absolute losers who think Sieg Heiling is tacky. And mixed in there are a couple of dorks who actually believe in something that isn't just pure, nihilistic evil, even if they are still capitalists.

[-] Black_Mald_Futures@hexbear.net 5 points 4 months ago

When are we going to decide on a Gang of Four style name for it, or are we just gonna call it the Biden Clique

[-] MayoPete@hexbear.net 1 points 4 months ago

Super Biden Bros biden-nibble

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