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We coulda had Bernie...
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Democratic Party leadership has known this to be a factor for decades, and has steadfastly refused to adapt to the existing political reality.
What, that whiny SJWs cannot be negotiated with? Finally we agree on something.
And we know if they gave into the demands of social justice warriors, we'd have to live in a more just society!
How awful.
Oh man, if only there was a way for them to force acceptance of these beneficial ideas. Like getting local reps elected who support those ideas to push the party as a whole farther towards those ideas. Instead of just saying "but it's for a just society!" Once every four years and then wondering why they never get support.
I agree it would be awesome if we could make a hard shift left and move to a more just society for everyone in it but dreams don't just pop into reality, there has to be work done and I don't see a lot of them helping out. Certainly not where I'm trying to gather support for the same ideas. Always "too busy to help" until a presidential election rolls around, which is fucking infuriating.
If only people here bothered to try and understand how nuanced actual politics are and that shit can’t be simplified so easily just because you happen to think in simple terms.
Simple terms... like "SJW"?
Yep. Like SJW. The people that don’t do shit but whine on the internet, then disappear until they next election year only to find something to whine about and use as an excuse to urge people not to vote over.
you're the one unironically calling people SJW's. i think the matter at hand is extremely simple lmao
So you think trade agreements that go back decades and overcoming partisan congressional policy is simple?
Why aren’t you doing it then, bud?
Because from where I see things, just simply saying:
“I don’t like when he cOmMiTs a gEnOciDe!”
isn’t doing shit to stop it- and is only hurting the chances anyone has to not make it exponentially worse when Donald “let’s finish the job” Trump takes over.
Because you see, although you seem to get upset when I call people propagandists, it’s not a huge leap to make when you’ve asked these people time and time again how they can justify urging people not to vote knowing it’ll be so much worse if Trump wins. How about I start calling them “bigots” because they will knowingly be causing our LGBTQ+ friends and family to suffer by allowing a Trump victory to happen. Or what about I call them “misogynists” for allowing Trump to win and run roughshod over women’s rights?
Considering the matter at hand, I think propagandist is a nice and relevant catch-all to describe those that are urging people not to vote against Trump.
Oh also, most of these people have no suggestions for who they’d have take Biden’s place that has any chance of winning the White House, but they seem to k ow Biden is not the guy. Again, from where I stand- if you’re not offering a solution to your suggestion, it’s not a valid suggestion. Someone gets elected regardless if you vote or not.
So if it’s okay with you, I’m going to call out the propaganda when I see it- as I see it without your permission.
Cool?
I bow to your clearly highly nuanced take of checks notes "people who care about social justice are a bunch of whiners who are bad at politics".
It’s pretty well understood that the term SJW represents your typical keyboard warrior that whines about politics they don’t like or understand during election years to the point that they will urge people not to vote only to spend the time between election years complaining about the results of their inaction.
They’re not part of the solution, they’re part of the problem.
From the sorts of things I've seen, it's anyone with "blue hair and pronouns", particularly if they have had a particularly viral moment that can be easily inserted into "Woke SJWs OWNED" clip compilations. Typing on a keyboard doesn't make for very good visual content, but I suppose posts clipped to show how cringe SJWs are is probably what you're referring to.
Somehow, I doubt you have a full picture of their political activities based only off what someone else was able to turn into ragebait.
Okay. We’re clearly not talking about the same thing, and I don’t argue with people that rearrange my words and spit them back at me in the form of things I never said.
Stop doing that, and have a good day.
Perhaps you should consider people as more than what they post on social media, especially given how many of those platforms have a financial interest in showing you things that make you mad. I don't see much political relevancy in the sentiment that the problem with the current political climate is that people aren't voting hard enough, but if you're committed to complaining online that people spend too much time online complaining and not enough time voting harder, then I wish you luck.
Perhaps you should also not assume what others do. I don’t have any social media accounts where I would see curated information. Aside from lemmy.
Which, if you are going to suggest lemmy is biased towards being anti-SJW, I’m going to laugh my ass off and not take anything you say seriously.
And yet you're conversant in the idea of SJWs and keyboard warriors. Where did you come by that idea, and who are these people whose political existence is so sharply limited to online discourse?
I didn’t just come to this idea, everyone pretty much did around 2011. Look it up.
I was there for it, and watched it happen. I'm familiar with the sort of people who popularized the idea that Social Justice is something to be derided. I'm not too keen on basing my idea of what is bad social justice on the definition that comes to us from the people who thought journalistic malpractice was based on who Zoe Quinn's ex was mad at.
Okay.
you are a sad person. no substance, no spine.
go ahead, call me "kiddo." tell me how you're totally super active in local politics. say "propagandist" again. say all the shit you're busy repeating here, day in, day out.
Propagandist. (Only doing what you asked)
I’m seeing that you seem to have no problem with all the “don’t vote!” And anti-Biden bullshit here. So maybe we shouldn’t be taking a stance on the bias of others here, hmmmm?
So you understand the political reality and recognize that party leadership needs to adapt to the electorate they have.
Steve Bannon is a pussy.
Yes he is. Without a doubt.