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[-] mathemachristian@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago

So what you're saying is, if one side fully wipes out and/or swallows up the other fully, colonialism is then ok.

no im not wtf

[-] awesome_lowlander@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 months ago

Colonialism is not a rare event, it happens ALL THE TIME, EVERYWHERE. If you're only finding fault with the ongoing efforts, and giving the rest a pass because they are no longer visible in your day-to-day life, you are effectively saying success justifies it. Otherwise, you're just being arbitrary and inconsistent.

[-] mathemachristian@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

giving the rest a pass because they are no longer visible in your day-to-day life you are effectively saying success justifies it.

Huh? How does that follow? If there is no longer injustice from an oppressor-oppressed dynamic then what is there to do? And how does the fact that it's no longer possible to make right justify the crime?

Edit: I don't even know what point you are trying to argue, my original statement was that states which are engaging in settler colonialism should be dismantled and dont have a right to exist. There can be other reasons to dismantle states forcibly (capitalism being the predominant one), this is but one of them. A rather egregious one.

[-] awesome_lowlander@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 months ago

The point that I and others have made, is that all states in existence today are ultimately founded on colonialism. It's disingenuous to suggest that some are innocent of it. They are not, they merely finished earlier. Given that, why do some states deserve to be dismantled but not others?

If the purpose is to halt the process of colonialism, there are ways to do so that are less drastic and controversial, and more likely to have a net positive result for all parties involved (or happen at all).

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