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The fact that there isn't a minimum of 2 years classroom work before they even get a ride along is fucking ridiculous.
As a German, the contrast in education and training for police is unfathomable. Yes, we still have a problem with some cops being Nazis, but cops don't kill people because "I was scared" here. They usually kill them after an act of terrorism that killed a lot more people, or if they had a standoff for like 2h and the guy has a gun.
Which absolutely is the better way.
But ofc, banning guns is really helpful in the first place, because wouldn't you know, banning a killing device rapidly decreases the amount of killings. Funny how that works. I would even argue it's cause and effect and not just coincidental.
It's worse than that here. There's a famous "police trainer" who spends his time giving seminars to officers all over the country telling them they have to have a "warrior mindset" and not only is it okay to kill, they should do it first before they get killed. It's not proper training, it's a fear cult indoctrination. Given that cops are - apparently required - to not be the brightest, it results in the horrible situation we have.
Which. Is not helpful.
There's a lot of them and, extremely unsurprisingly, they are right-wing lunatics themselves.
A good example of the brainwashing that comes out of these seminars was the cop who heard an acorn drop on his car and then immediately fell to the ground claiming he was shot before unloading his entire pistol into the back of his squad car where a suspect was sitting handcuffed.
I don't think that 2 years is a must. Here in the UK police officers have 5 months of classroom and 3 months of field training. That works pretty well. What also helps is that British police officers are trained to diffuse the situation and don't have guns.
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They have guns, just like police where I live have guns.
Locked in the car, not on their person.
If a situation requires a gun, they can go and get it.
Afterwards, they have to account for every round fired.
But then, it's harder to kill "n****rs" extra-judicously then.
Then they'd have to pay them more.
There's still tons of places that police, firefighters, and EMT's, like $35k a year starting. Everyone always talks about teachers not making enough, but forgets about the people who show up in 5 minutes in the middle of the night because you called 911 and have no idea what to do and need to get help fast. Firefighters and emts are exploited because of a love of the job and what it means to them. Police are often not of that same track. If you don't want to just attract the guy who wants to walk around looking for trouble and have a gun, you'll have to make it worth the money.
Oh trust me, I'm well aware how shit most (non cop) first responders have it. Round my neck of the woods, cops start at around 60k will full benefits. That's still damn good money here, and they go up quickly.
Our firefighters don't even make minimum wage. They finally just got a pension. Our EMS hardly makes more than minimum wage.