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People love to call veganism ‘privileged,’ while conveniently ignoring the fact that the only reason animal products are even close to being accessible for the average consumer is because they’re factory farmed, slaughtered and packed by grossly underpaid labourers working in dangerous conditions, and then massively subsidised by all of our taxes.

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[-] agent_nycto@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago

I think that calling veganism privileged is a response to the more militant vegans who don't realize that economic hardship and food scarcity can make their version of veganism unsustainable for some people.

[-] veganpizza69@lemmy.world -3 points 5 days ago

You're referring to outliers.

If you care about animals, you don't move to a "desert" where you don't have a supply of non-animal-based food. That's the cost of trying to give a shit. You don't get to be an opportunistic predator, you don't practice it only when it's convenient with your business/career plan.

For most people this isn't even an issue, but carnists love to glom onto the exceptions as if most humans are living on a space station surrounded by asteroid cattle.

[-] delirious_owl@discuss.online 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I've lived in a dessert, and there's no shortage of fruit, dates, olives, bread, carrots, onions, beans, rice, cabbage, beets, and all the veggies you need at the local market

Hell, israel has the highest number of vegans per capita than any country, and most of the diet is Whole Foods.

[-] veganpizza69@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago
[-] delirious_owl@discuss.online 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Ah. Right. Then its basically pasta and bread and peanut butter. Maybe bananas or canned corn or something if you're lucky

[-] veganpizza69@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

If you read the article there, you'll notice that it's more complicated.

I've also read a bunch of papers on it and it's not as simple as access. People have desires (often influenced by advertising and culture) and a certain segment of the planetary population believes that cooking is beneath them, so that it's someone else (very shitty) job to feed them while the hustle and grind to win the Dream.

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