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submitted 5 months ago by kashifshah@lemmy.sdf.org to c/world@lemmy.world

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.sdf.org/post/17713638

““If we jail Trump, get rid of Maga, end the electoral college, ban voter ID, censor free speech, we’ll save democracy,” says one meme in a QAnon channel on Telegram that depicts Biden in a Nazi uniform with a Hitler mustache”

Apparently they at least understand their opponent’s view .

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[-] Nusm@yall.theatl.social 42 points 5 months ago

I put this on another post from another account, but I found it, and I’m going to paste it here:

Do it! DO IT!! Shut up talking about it, and let’s get the civil war started!! Because I suspect it will be over before supper time.

In reality all they’re going to do is talk about it, because they’re small weak little people. Look at the big bad Proud Boys. When faced with the consequences of jail, they cried like little girls and begged the judges to take pity on them. Only one defiantly yelled “TRUMP WON” on his way out is the courtroom, but that was even after he cried and groveled.

[-] Naloxone@lemmy.world 45 points 5 months ago

Point the first: no. War is awful no matter how short or long it is, just no.

Point the second: folks said the first American civil war was going to be short, too.

In summary, no.

[-] GoddessNoAi@lemmynsfw.com 43 points 5 months ago

People love looking at the first civil war in conversations like this, but the next civil war is going to be nothing like it. For a likely comparison, you'd have to look at the Spanish Civil War and The Troubles in Ireland.

Americans have no fucking clue what they're asking for.

[-] Milk_Sheikh@lemm.ee 17 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Or for a more recent events, Syria. I enjoy following modern history and geopolitics, but fuck me that is a mess of proxy forces, non-state actors, and local warlords.

If it pops off, somebody on the world stage is going to co-opt and prolong any US civil war/sectarianism to keep the US broken or distracted with a prolonged insurgency and COIN. Russia is already working to highlight any existing and/or astroturf internal division, and we’re seeing right now how effective proxies can be at causing an enemy to hurt itself in its confusion.

Iran knew that Oct7 would demand a firm response from Israeli civic and political society, and Netanyahu/the government fell for the trap. See also, 9/11.

[-] Naloxone@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

I agree that a Civil War 2 would be vastly different, all I’m saying is that it would be anything but short.

[-] GoddessNoAi@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 5 months ago

Gotcha. Very valid point.

[-] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

It drives me insane that every "you just have to vote!!" liberal thinks that a civil war is two armies meeting on a battlefield. That's not how it works at all! There are no armies. It's literally guerilla attacks meant to make the state ungovernable, and the enemy is very possibly your neighbor who saw your anti-trump post on NextDoor.

[-] Wiz@midwest.social 7 points 5 months ago

folks said the first American civil war was going to be short, too.

And we're still going through it! 😭

[-] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

No war is a good war.

[-] Gigasser@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Might be a good time to arm up(unless you're mentally ill in a way that will make you hurt yourself or make you hurt others before any actual conflict has begun). Just in case of course.

Edit/Addendum: If you have kids, please get a gun case and please educate them about proper gun safety and how to properly check if there's any ammunition in chamber, etc. In fact, might as well take a gun safety course yourself.

[-] Wiz@midwest.social 2 points 5 months ago

How will arming up help anything? Honest question.

[-] Naloxone@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

Parity is important. Why did the Soviets need nukes? Why did France?

The right sees the left as defenseless, because they see the left as the anti-gun crowd.

I will give up my 2nd amendment rights at the same time as my neighbor up the street with the “stop the steal” flags.

[-] Wiz@midwest.social 2 points 5 months ago

What would you do with the guns? What will they do with the guns?

What is the envisioned game plan here?

[-] Naloxone@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

I like to put little holes in paper at 100 yards.

In the fall I hunt squirrel and deer.

That’s the sum of my game plan?

They'd shit their rascals the second bullets started flying.

[-] scarabic@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

Yep. Actual coup plotters don’t stand on street corners with signs yelling about it.

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