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"You WON't bE miSSed WheN TRumP dEpoRtS YoU!!!"
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this post was submitted on 02 Jun 2024
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No you're a liberal because you are twisting yourself in a pretzel to advocate for Biden as "harm reduction"
Please fuck off.
I'm not the person you're responding to, but I would never advocate for Biden, but I would also never ~~support~~ advocate for Trump. He's clearly the worse option for a myriad of other reasons.
I really do understand why a Palestinian American would not vote for Biden right now though and would never ask them to.
then have some solidarity with Palestinians and stop the ridiculous “harm reduction” rhetoric. nobody here is advocating for trump. those comments are removed and the users don’t last long on here since our admins are great and actually ban reactionaries.
if you want to actually delineate these “material conditions” you claim will be worse under trump compared to biden please share them
Okay, I will later when I have time. Probably days from now if not more than a week. One short thing I would argue is many things are generally worse with every passing year because (1) there has been a rightward trend in the Overton window, (2) the conservatives have been on a long, calculated campaign to gain political supremacy by diminishing voting rights, hacking away at federal power, and increasing the role of capital in political decision-making, primarily through the capture of the Judiciary (and its ideology).
Biden sucks and is pathetic in his response to RvW being overturned, for example. But it doesn't matter if you had Chomsky himself as president, nothing could have been done to change that decision.
I just don't think the solution is to then shift the Overton window even more right than where it is by voting for Trump, potentially making a lot of these issues (particularly in regards to voting rights), harder to shift left.
a president who opposed the rightward shift would have pushed court stacking and added justices until RvW was safe. or pushed a bill codifying abortion rights. dems had a voting majority in both houses and any dem who didnt vote for it would be giving up their reelection chance. ofc the rotating villain would vote against it and just take a high paying private sector job when their term ends.
the role of dems is to slow or stop leftward momentum by doing nothing so that the republicans can take over and move the country rightward. the overton window means nothing when regular citizens have no say in politics and can only vote for the mean fascist or the nice fascist. the overton window is meaningful if it is far left enough to push ppl into revolutionary action.
and, once again, stop strawmanning, nobody here is advocating for voting for trump. also, trump in office does not push the overton window right. it empowers the most rabid americans and would increase violence against the left, but that is going to happen under biden anyways with the right leaning state and municipal governments
I agree and think Democrats are tepid, pathetic excuses for a left wing that engage in continued imperialism and corporate control. I completely agree that they are letting us slip further into fascism and their responses are shit. I'm just saying that to make it happen quicker by (1) voting for Trump or (2) not voting for Biden seems misguided, generally. As much as I wish someone else would be on the ticket.
My intent is not to straw-man. I assumed folks here were advocating voting for Trump, because to me that seems like the only other option on a ticket that only gives you a binary choice. I'm sorry if that's not the case and I'm missing something.
And in that case, my question is then: what are people here advocating for? Not voting? Voting for a lefty as a write-in? Starting armed insurrection? Somewhere in between?