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What does he even mean by corruption here?
I read this as higher up military officials are probably going to start pushing for surrender against NATOs wishes. Corruption basically meaning not dying with all your men or giving up Intel to survive.
Yeah I think it should be understood as a pretext for whatever NATO wants to do to Ukraine.
It may be something along the lines of regime change meddling or an excuse for stationing troops at checkpoints or taking over even more of Ukraine's finances.
Why would they bother doing a regime change on Ukraine. What would that give them
Whatever part of the political class they want and/or the installation of an "interim" occupation.
Maybe Zelensky et al become too frustrating for the plan to draw down aid and start spinning a failure narrative. They can just throw him under the bus as corrupt in an attempt to preempt a narrative of betrayal. Instead, they can say it was actually Zelensky's fault for being corrupt. Or they can skip Zelensky directly, leaving him as an icon that suddenly shuts up so he can have his house in Florida or whatever, while Western powers select the new political class for Ukraine as part of "anti-corruption".
Maybe they use it for a purge of the Ukrainian elements that would seek the betrayal narrative because they're aware that supporting a bunch of Nazis will have blowback.
this seems obvious to us but idk that the state department understands this
They understand it, and they want that blowback. More fascists means there is no room for the left to grow, and it further strengthens their goals in empowering fascists in europe.