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Can't speak for Australians, but as a Canadian who expects that the same could happen here - why the fuck are our governments so apathetic about this shit?.
Stand up for the people trusting you. Be MAD. Stop doing it if you're also doing it.
Even the article is apathetic... they write "escorted" her back to China, when it'd actually be "kidnapped" or "abducted"...?
In the UK there was a peaceful protester and the Chinese dragged him into the embassy grounds and beat him in front of the public. They have diplomatic immunity.
Nothing was done obviously.
No wonder China and Russia shit over us and act like we are weak. We are. We proved it multiple times.
Fuck the West is shadow of what it once was.
I think this is what molotov cocktails were made for.
Might want to look up the etymology. Molotovs tended to be aimed at Western partisans.
The name originally comes from Finland and the Winter War, where they were used against soviet tanks.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov_cocktail
You are confusing the Hungarian Revolt in '56 with the Winter War in '39.
Why don't you quote that whole paragraph:
I gave you the link, my guy. I assumed you knew how to click it.
You were wrong and doubled-down. You should read the things you link my guy.
My guy, its right there in black and white.
Yeah, it's not like western governments, "intelligence" agencies or police would ever beat protesters, persecute political dissidents, murder civilians, torture suspects in designated black sites, ally with dictatorships who torture and murder journalists with bone saws, overthrow democratically elected governments, or engage in any behavior that is horrifically anti-democratic or anti-human rights.
That time when the west was historically great was a lie. We were only better than fascism or communism, but our ruling class, the politicians they own, and their corporations have always engaged in horrific shit. Ours just hide behind the media and a liability shield of a dozen LLC's, or do it hidden behind closed doors — unless you're a palestinian, protester, communist, or a dozen other groups who are okay to oppress publicly at any given time.
Yeah and everyone knows: Whataboutisms are a really great way to argue your point!
It would be Whataboutism if I defended the accusations against China or Russia. I explicitly said we were better — just only better than the bottom of the barrel — and the whole point of my comment was to refute the right-wing nationalist fantasy that we were historically "strong", "great" or "righteous"; a time that never existed in reality.
I suggest you learn what maketh a logical fallacy.
Uh... any link on that? I'm not finding this reference anywhere.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-63972640
The article isn't clear as to what precipitated the brawl
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clash_at_the_Consulate_General_of_China,_Manchester
The individual was part of a crowd attempting to harass individuals within the embassy, not someone police snatched off the street at random.
Bob appears to have tried to drag off a member of the consult in the act of tearing down signs, only to be pulled inside himself in a tug of war with the consulate staff.
Nothing about this looks peaceful.
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I cannot not read this in Cave Johnson's voice.
I didn't read it that way the first time, but yep. J. K. Simmons energy all over that comment.
Devil's Advocacy:
The why is really really simple. The actions taken in result have the potential to cause more harm than help. Tariffs don't work, censureship is useless, and war is... yeah. They can get up on stage and shout about how angry they are but it means fuck all. The important part is how WE deal with it. Legislature starts from the grass roots level, political activism and engagement can help make new laws that expressly do not allow extradition by the CCP and other adversarial nations, or in any way allow an arm of the CCP to search for or request information on any individuals.