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Economic impact laid bare by findings has implications for UK where about two-thirds of people are overweight or obese

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[-] GBU_28@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

How has cico been disproven? The mental health component is the real issue. As in, for very legitimate reasons, humans can't maintain the diet, due to failing to maintain discipline. Disproving cico would mean humans create perpetual energy.

If you lock someone in a room and give them only water, they will lose weight. (Set aside vitamins)

Then try a single spoonful of rice a day. Still lose weight.

Continue to increase food, you'll find eventually they maintain a consistent weight.

Continue to increase food and eventually they will gain weight, as they will be consuming more calories than they burn.

[-] nakedunclothedhuman@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Ci/co as a thermodynamic rule hasn’t been disproven but it works in a vaccum with no other factors considered. Humans are complex and vary in their biological processes that change how calories are utilized, processed, stored, etc. Two people can be put on the exact same diet and exercise plan and have completely different outcomes, that’s where the simplified idea of ci/co has been “disproven” as far as it is commonly understood.

As far as the mental health piece, it is one part of the puzzle but its not necessarily the main component, and also cannot be simplifed to maintaining discipline. Basically, all I’m trying to say is people are complex and just saying an individual needs more discipline or needs to lose weight really reduces the nuances between the relationship of weight and overall health.

[-] GBU_28@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Discipline is mental health. Mental health is the real issue.

Edit discipline is not the only relevant mental health topic here, just replying to that in particular.

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