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Atomized refers to being individual, alone, responsible for your own needs. Not a member of a community etc. Sometimes we say siloed off. It's not just about needs but also about loneliness and feeling shut out.
A non-atomized society are places like Vietnam and Cuba. In Vietnam during Covid lockdowns, they brought you fresh food to eat day to day. You can rely on your neighbours for needs. People are looking out for each other. Contrast this with the American response(s) to covid - Lockdowns but you don't get anything provisioned to you or fuck it everyone for themselves no response at all.
There's definitely communities within places like America that aren't as atomized, mutual aid societies, unions etc. But the dominant character of society in general of the United States is one of deep loneliness and atomization.
Marxism I think
Sociology profs are more likely to be Marxists than just about any other field and Marx did some absolutely fundamental sociological work in his economic, political and philosophical works. A lot of Sociological studies under capitalism is to try to undermine the Marxism, but Sociology without Marx is like biology without Darwin.
Except Marx is still right
What does that have to do with what I said?
So, you came to a leftist message board and didn't expect people here to be Marxists? Explain why you think I'm wrong, get flooded with replies and then banned. You're coming at this like you aren't in our space. You're not going to win rhetorically and change our minds and you're not gonna convert anaudience to whatever ridiculous notions you believe in cause were already leftsts and feel pretty strongly about it, otherwise we wouldnt be here.. When you deboonk Marx at me, please be sure to enlighten us to your own point of view and what should be done in the same circumstances because you're smarter than Marx and all of us. Cause otherwise you're wasting your time and looking like a fucking blockhead who spouts off vague platitudes in order to do nothing in particular.
Before you're banned Explain why you're here.
What did they post? They didn't explain fast enough for me.
They said something like "Seeya later leftoes", idk, it was kind of embarrassing to read
What a silly person
Deeply unserious, you might say
I think the problem the prior user is highlighting is that sociology itself is a liberal science. It functions to reinforce liberalism rather than challenge it.
We have several struggle sessions about various aspects of psychology having the same problem, existing to find solutions to the problems that liberal society creates in people rather than to change the conditions that are causing those problems. Lonely and depressed from atomisation? Liberal psychology says take some pills to solve it whereas Marxists say we need to fundamentally change how we live and stop atomising society in order to improve people's mental health. That kind of thing is present as an issue in sociology as much as it is in psychology. Treating the problems of society rather than truly challenging the fact that the society that capital has created is responsible for them and needs to change instead.
Medicine and psychology are related fields? Liberal psychology is the identification for how institutions of psychology under liberalism will focus towards solutions that can make one feel better individually but falls short of creating solutions that address the root of an issue systemically. For example, under liberalism one may endure extreme stress due to their economic precarity; and a psychologist would reccomend solutions and help out in a way that helps one cope with the stress, but is unable to help address the economic precarity at the root of this stress.