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Klipper vs Marlin (lemmy.world)
submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by nosnahc@lemmy.world to c/3dprinting@lemmy.world

I actually have Marlin + Octoprint but found out recently that Klipper exist. I read everywhere that Klipper is better but I don't really get why. I understand that Klipper use raspberry as powerfull calculator instead of the STM32 of the printer, but octoprint is used to send Gcode to Marlin too... So what's the really difference please?

Edit : I don't understand how Klipper or Marlin can give better results when gcode and instructions are generated by Cura

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[-] _cerpin_taxt_@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

Klipper is great... Once you get it working. Way better than Marlin, but good luck getting it to work.

I swapped my motherboard for a BTT Manta + CB1 + EZ2209 drivers. Took about 7 months to get it to a state where my prints are regularly okay. Every 3D printing community I've come across is less than helpful, and all Klipper documentation is written like you're already at a pro level, as does pretty much every other guide out there. People will swear it's so easy, but you know what helped after 7 months of tinkering? Myself just throwing everything I have at my config in hopes of something working.

What kind of printer do you have?

[-] IMALlama@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Klipper in a frequently used application like Voron? You'll have help for days. Klipper in an novel or bespoke application? It's going to be quite a a bit harder.

[-] _cerpin_taxt_@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I have an Ender 6, which is a super common printer. Not on the same level as the 3.

Voron isn't an application, though. It's a type of printer.

Novel or bespoke printer? Not sure what you're talking about, but it's supposed to be universal firmware. There are plenty of guides out there and folks running Klipper on all sorts of printers, including mine. They just aren't well-written, or aren't written for beginners, or assume you're a pro that doesn't need anything explained.

This is exactly what I'm talking about with the 3D printer community. I'll say one thing, and then someone will say something completely unrelated in response, like you just did.

I ask, "Hey, can anyone with (insert my specs here) show me their Klipper config or Slicer profiles for reference?" and I get 100 responses asking me why I'm using the hardware I'm using, recommending me other hardware that they like, telling me to use a different slicer that they like better, telling me if I don't tell them my issue or show them pics of my prints they can't help me (I never asked for help with prints, just to look at someone's config with similar hardware), downvoting me for not already being a 3D printing pro, and just generally being unpleasant and literally answering anything but my question.

I work in tech. I'm used to Googling answers, hitting up forums, digging through old posts, etc. It's about 50% of how I get my job done. There is something fundamentally wrong with the majority of the 3D printing community.

Not bashing this community specifically, as it's too new to judge and so far people seem helpful and nice, but this is a problem I run into everywhere I turn to for assistance, like GitHub, Reddit, Printables, and various other manufacturer forums. The 3D printing community is pretty dogshit.

Let's make this a much better community than literally everywhere else (which shouldn't be difficult at all). When you post your setup, post your full specs with your firmware config and slicer settings. Is there a way we can tag ourselves or add a profile/signature? Maybe we can even put links to our specs.

So much of the 3D printing community seems to want to kill it by scaring off all newcomers. We can make this place the definitive stop for 3D printing knowledge, questions, and configs, but it's going to take the work of some mods and the entire community to get there.

Share knowledge like the rest of the tech enthusiast world. Your Klipper config isn't some super secret proprietary code for your eyes only. You don't have to guard it like it's your virginity. This hobby is going to die outside of super corporate builds with zero after market parts or builds like the Bambu X1 if the 3D printing community as a whole doesn't learn how to share and not be a dick.

[-] jwigum@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

He’s using the first definition of application, you’re using the third: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/application

Seems you’re running into an issue with a specific hardware config, and people are trying to help you back into solutions for the issues you’re having (pictures of prints, recommending known good/workable hardware configs, etc.). That’s pretty nice, but you seem to be chafing at the perception they aren’t giving you exactly what you want. Slicer profiles can be really detailed, so you’ll have to be specific about what information you need/want. “Give me everything” isn’t going to do it. The requests to look at example prints make me think people either aren’t confident they can trust your descriptions, or they don’t have the hardware you’re using (but still want to help). It might also just be a community requirement to make sure there’s actionable data in an ask to the group.

There seem to be some resources out there for what you’re asking:

https://3dprintbeginner.com/how-to-install-klipper-on-creality-ender-6/

https://3dpandme.com/2022/10/02/tutorial-btt-manta-m8p-cb1-klipper-guide/

https://github.com/Klipper3d/klipper/blob/master/config/generic-bigtreetech-manta-m8p-v1.1.cfg

Based on some of your comments, I figure you’ve probably already found some of the above. If not, I’d give them a look. Good luck!

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