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Marijuana is its own special category, but club drugs (which for some reason include date rape drugs), inhalants and steroids are all in a "miscellaneous" category together?

Also, note all the ridiculous drug propaganda lies.

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[-] Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website 127 points 7 months ago

The people who blabber incessantly about weed being a gateway drug are the exact REASON that I agree with them, but we VERY much disagree on the specifics.

Think of it this way:

Every adult in your life has told you that weed is JUST AS BAD as heroin and cocain and meth. You hear it repeated ad nauseum, ESPECIALLY if you were in DARE.

Now one day someone you have known for a long time offers you some because "it's not that bad, trust me you'll be fine" and they go ahead and take a puff or twelve. Turns out it's not that bad. They were fine after some initial uncoordinated attempts at doing something.

So if weed is this interesting, maybe heroin isn't that bad either?

Yeah turns out heroin IS that bad, and lumping it in with weed is like tossing the kindergarten bully into a maxsec prison.

So yeah, it's only a "gAtEwAy dRuG" because you fucks lied for decades and made false equivalence of things and taught kids they can't trust you.

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 49 points 7 months ago
[-] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Arguably one of the worst drugs to be taking. Death is slow and agonizingly painful. The addiction is deep seeded. The high is very minor, like you see me going out on heroin you know I've experienced things your greatest orgasm could never compare too. Smoking, I got to like, stand outside for 5 mins at a time.

[-] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago

I've experienced things your greatest orgasm could never compare too.

But to anyone reading this, DO NOT DO HEROIN. It's life-ruining. There's that story of the guy on Reddit who decided to try it, and gave updates as it ruined his life. He stopped updating and people assume he's just dead.

Seriously, heroin is some fucked up shit.

[-] Kyatto@leminal.space 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I looked it up to read it, harrowing but I don't think he is dead. He posted a few years ago saying that the account is too much to log in on, from all the messages and I get that. I once made some posts/comments about being suicidal that got nowhere near the attention he got and I was getting DMs about it for years. I can't imagine the stress of logging in to that account with how many mentions, DMs and comments it must receive, about a really really shitty time in your life.

[-] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago
[-] Iceblade02@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

/u/SpontaneousH

Archived that shit - read it when I was a teen and it convinced me to stay far away from drugs and addiction.

[-] tourist@lemmy.world 31 points 7 months ago

While drunk, I got insane cravings for cocaine and nicotine

While high, I get insane cravings for pizza and Tame Impala

[-] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

I just get hang overs.

Weed doesn't hit like it use to. I think weed/stress and responsibility is a bad combo.

[-] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I'll agree but sooner or later everyone is going to make the leap its just a matter of how far they think the fall is.

Say we start thinking about weed the same way we think about alcohol now. Ok but there is molly, mushrooms, LSD, and ketamine that can all easily step into the space that weed had occupied. Say we discrimininlize all that too. Now people understand how mood altering substances work and aren't afraid them. Does heroin seem more accessible now?

I'm not saying a tier system is good and maybe society is just fundamentally flawed in the way it thinks about mind altering substances. Some how though, we need to show people before they learn the hard way, that substance abuse has lasting adverse effects including death.

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