145
‘Everything’s just … on hold’: the Netherlands’ next-level housing crisis
(www.theguardian.com)
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
this post was submitted on 06 May 2024
145 points (98.0% liked)
World News
38691 readers
2862 users here now
A community for discussing events around the World
Rules:
-
Rule 1: posts have the following requirements:
- Post news articles only
- Video links are NOT articles and will be removed.
- Title must match the article headline
- Not United States Internal News
- Recent (Past 30 Days)
- Screenshots/links to other social media sites (Twitter/X/Facebook/Youtube/reddit, etc.) are explicitly forbidden, as are link shorteners.
-
Rule 2: Do not copy the entire article into your post. The key points in 1-2 paragraphs is allowed (even encouraged!), but large segments of articles posted in the body will result in the post being removed. If you have to stop and think "Is this fair use?", it probably isn't. Archive links, especially the ones created on link submission, are absolutely allowed but those that avoid paywalls are not.
-
Rule 3: Opinions articles, or Articles based on misinformation/propaganda may be removed. Sources that have a Low or Very Low factual reporting rating or MBFC Credibility Rating may be removed.
-
Rule 4: Posts or comments that are homophobic, transphobic, racist, sexist, anti-religious, or ableist will be removed. “Ironic” prejudice is just prejudiced.
-
Posts and comments must abide by the lemmy.world terms of service UPDATED AS OF 10/19
-
Rule 5: Keep it civil. It's OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It's NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
-
Rule 6: Memes, spam, other low effort posting, reposts, misinformation, advocating violence, off-topic, trolling, offensive, regarding the moderators or meta in content may be removed at any time.
-
Rule 7: We didn't USED to need a rule about how many posts one could make in a day, then someone posted NINETEEN articles in a single day. Not comments, FULL ARTICLES. If you're posting more than say, 10 or so, consider going outside and touching grass. We reserve the right to limit over-posting so a single user does not dominate the front page.
We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.
All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.
Lemmy World Partners
News !news@lemmy.world
Politics !politics@lemmy.world
World Politics !globalpolitics@lemmy.world
Recommendations
For Firefox users, there is media bias / propaganda / fact check plugin.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/media-bias-fact-check/
- Consider including the article’s mediabiasfactcheck.com/ link
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
If Amsterdam was in the U.S., a bunch of people would be coming in here telling the people who live there to just move and buy or rent a cheaper home somewhere else. Is that going to happen with this thread? We shall see.
Amsterdam is quite interesting with regard to homeownership at least, there are a bunch of rich old folks trying to push out the red light district from what I've heard.
Also, with Amsterdam it's not even an issue of buying houses, that's just unimaginable for most people, it's paying rent that's getting worse. I've also seen people with high pay being able to afford a place, but just not being able to rent since none are available.
And all this is with rent controls.
I'm sure there are plenty of unique factors. I was just making a snide remark about people who think that "just move" is an answer to every housing crisis, something I see far too often on Lemmy.
For the record, I was looking for places to buy in Rotterdam the other month, and what I found was that by and large, if you want to buy things inside the city limits, it's either some weird mansion in the bougie foresty part, a 3 million EUR apartment where your garage is in the apartment, and you enter your place by car lift, or an entire fucking apartment block. People just don't sell cheap apartments piecemeal.
The upside is that living in "the suburbs" which means moderately dense villages and towns near the big cities is doable, and you might be able to commute even without a car since public transport is mostly good.
Fully agree it's a common refrain. And one I never understood. Even with my job where I can and do work fully remote, most of the places they always recommend have such terrible infrastructure I wouldn't be able to do my job, DSL wouldn't cut it.
Correct. it's a very complex situation, which nobody wanted, yet here we are. And politically and judicial, both on regional, national and European level, there is no known simple solution.
What really triggered this mess was a court ruling regarding an environmental N0 ( nitro oxygen?) and a Co2 and smallparticle emission report not very long ago. That ruling gridlocked everything.
Nobody is saying that in the US with the interest rates as high as they are...?
People are talking more about being stuck, locked in, and unable to move.
People keep saying it in threads regarding the U.S. housing crisis. "I got a house because I moved to Buttfuck, Montana and if you were only willing to quit your job and also move to Buttfuck, Montana and also learn to code and get a work from home job, you can buy a house too."
This is the level interest rates were 30 years ago and no one had issues buying houses then. Rates aren't the issues, people aren't getting oaid enough and have to compete with corporations for their basic necessities at this point
Houses were cheaper then and wages were more in line with home costs?
Not sure the point you're trying to make. Rates are the issue in the face of the price.
One needs to fall. Price won't. Interest is the problem. They are all functions of one another.