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I'm Jewish and have been told very angrily that I killed Jesus more than once. It's fun.

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[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

So that there's no misunderstanding the Jews didn't directly kill Jesus, the Roman Empire did. The Jews of the time weren't universally response for Jesus death either, much less the Jews existent today. If that isn't enough Christians are missing the whole "Sons aren't responsible for the Sins of their Fathers" thing the Bible has going on.

With that out of the way...

The problem with that first link is that Jewish Leadership, who are the ones that conspired together to have Jesus arrested and delivered to a Roman Court, DID have two very good reasons to want Jesus dead and neither of them had anything to do with Heresy.

First, as the article notes, the Jews had a tendency to be unruly so anything that got the general population worked up would bring the Roman Legions down on them and Jesus was definitely getting them worked up with large crowds, loud arguments, and miracles all over the place.

Second, which the article completely skips, Jesus and his teachings were an existential threat to the Jewish Leadership of the time. His teachings not only undermined their Religion but if his teachings were implemented the whole Jewish power structure would become unnecessary and be dissolved. This is blatantly discussed in John 11:47.

Sadly the 2nd link is kinda worthless because there's nothing in it regarding the Pope's argument, just that the statement was made. Now I'd go read "Jesus of Nazareth', Part II" by Pope Benedict XVI but in a fantastic statement about the Catholic Church you have to buy the damn thing! I mean didn't Jesus kind of have a whole tirade about that?

Anyway, this isn't mean to be an argument. I just caught your post and was interested in the links so I thought I'd provide some feedback on them.

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Anyway, this isn’t mean to be an argument. I just caught your post and was interested in the links so I thought I’d provide some feedback on them.

All good, it was an interesting read. :)