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Israel fumes as UN secretary-general leaves Hamas off sexual violence blacklist
(www.timesofisrael.com)
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Daily reminder that the rape accusations are as fake as the 40 beheaded babies.
It is pretty hard to say what's is true and what isn't in an ongoing conflict. Both side tries to make the other look evil while trying to hide or minimize their own evil deeds.
Which is why we don't believe anything any party says without evidence or a very large amount of witnesses. These false rape accusations have been the biggest lie so far where israel is blocking any independent investigation for to this very day.
Indeed, but without investigations it is too early to say that it was a lie or if was the truth. Instead of labeling hastily one side allegation as lie, it has to be investigated, and proved as such.
Don't mistake it as defending one side or the other, both side are different faces of a similar evil, but polarizing the debate in such way will just make it harder for moderates and peace advocate to be heard.
It is not true until it is proven otherwise.
If someone calls you a rapist without evidence this does not become a magical limbo scenario. Especially after 6 months without evidence.
Unfortunately rapes are hard to prove. DNA traces and bruises are quick to disappear, and as such samples have to be taken quickly.
That's why most cases of rapes are mainly based on victims testimonials, a requires extensive investigation to be proved as plausible enough to warrant a trial.
In the current case both side refuse to let third party investigate such allegation, and this should raise suspicion for both sides. But both have plausible excuses for such refusal. Hamas don't want strangers to know where hostages are held, and Israel may want to protect the alleged victims from the media pressure.
Israel claimed to have forensic and video evidence which they lied about.
Your accusation is entirely wrong as Hamas did not object to a third party investigation of fake israeli rape claims. UN Investigations into forensic evidence of what happened on Oct7 were single-handedly blocked by israel and israel only.
I'm not sure why you are bringing up any hostages as they are not the ones making accusations and we know that not a single hostage that has been released has been raped.
It's interesting how this magically becomes a "both sides thing". This is an israel thing.
source?
“Between the Hammer and the Anvil” - The Story Behind the New York Times October 7 Exposé