Pelosi accuses MSNBC host Katy Tur of being ‘apologist for Donald Trump’ (www.thehill.com)

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During an appearance on the network, Pelosi touted President Biden’s record on the economy, saying, he “created 9 million jobs in his term in office. Donald Trump has the worst record of job loss of any president. So we just have to make sure people know.”

Host Katy Tur briefly interjected, telling Pelosi “there was a global pandemic” during Trump’s presidency.

Pelosi paused, looking shocked, before shooting back at Tur that “he had the worst record of any president. We’ve had other concerns in our country.”

“If you want to be an apologist for Donald Trump, that may be your role, but it ain’t mine,” she added.

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[-] AmidFuror@fedia.io 1 points 5 months ago

I see this sentiment a lot, but moving left could easily lose more votes than it gains. Blame Nixon, Reagan, or Fox News if you like. G.W. Bush won twice because Gore and Kerry were successfully painted as "too liberal," and the public was happy to accept that.

[-] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 9 points 5 months ago

Right now the crisis facing democrats isn't "radicalization" - the independent vote in America is miniscule... it's that there is a huge population left of "center" (i.e. the brand of conservative currently undecided between Biden and Trump)... the thing we need to strategically attack is voter apathy.

Giving young people and other dissatisfied liberals a reason to turn out is critical.

[-] distantsounds@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

Moving left will not lose Biden any votes. The Trump supporters will not change; they’re ride or die for that idiot. The disenfranchised and the youth have nothing to vote for, only something to vote against. Give those people a reason to come out to the polls. This election feels more like extortion than anything else.

[-] 24_at_the_withers@lemmy.world -2 points 5 months ago

My boomer in-laws have voted D their entire lives, but are considering voting Trump because they think Biden is too liberal. They are not as unusual as you might think.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

I see this sentiment a lot, but moving left could easily lose more votes than it gains.

So centrist voters are fickle and unreliable, which is why we listen to them?

[-] AmidFuror@fedia.io -1 points 5 months ago

By definition, swing voters can go either way. We try to get their votes because in our FPTP system, you only win elections by getting the most votes in enough states.

Don't forget that you need to appeal to a majority of the voters in many of the states to win a Presidential election. That includes in swing states where the center is well right even of Joe Biden.

I'd be happy to read about polls that show otherwise. For now it looks like a lot of progressives like to think their policies are very popular but can't win outside of California and Massachusetts.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

I’d be happy to read about polls that show otherwise.

Uh huh. I've seen what this platform says about polls that indicate that people aren't happy with centrist Democrats.

[-] AmidFuror@fedia.io 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Thanks for considering it.

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