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[-] SouthEndSunset@lemm.ee 38 points 5 months ago

Do the people saying that communism is bad think capitalism is good?

[-] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 23 points 5 months ago
[-] MissJinx@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

you knoe there isn't only 2 choices right? Thay can both have good and bad sides. Maybe try some mix of it fisrt

[-] EchoCT@lemmy.ml 12 points 5 months ago

Dialectical Materialism. Right now, they are. You either work towards communism or capitalism moves towards consolidation of capital. Those are your choices.

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

also there are more than 1 proposed way to achieve communism, even though i tend to favor socialism.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 months ago

Imma be real, chief, I don't think DiaMat is going to work on Non-marxists, even if I agree.

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 6 points 5 months ago

there's capitalism and its variants (the current system), and there is anti-capitalism in various flavours. (socdem, ML, anarchism)

you can choose your favorite flavour, but its either moving towards capitalism, or moving away from it.

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[-] SouthEndSunset@lemm.ee 4 points 5 months ago

Yes. It’s just those are the two mentioned, and I’m slightly communist. So there’s some bias.

[-] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

We did that already. We could do it again.

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 months ago

thats not a mix though, it was just a bandaid over capitalism. the capital accumulating class was never extinguished, eventually leading to the same problems today all over again.

hence why we advocate for a systemic change, if you can't accumulate capital, you can't buy back the system again like it was done before.

[-] lud@lemm.ee 7 points 5 months ago
[-] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 2 points 5 months ago

As usual the best answer lies somewhere between the two extremes

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 11 points 5 months ago

we tried that before though, improving things temporarily, but it will never be permanent until we extinguish the owner class.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

The trick is not falling for the lie that social democracy is meeting socialism in the middle.

Social Democracy is just liberalism with enlightened self interest. Is it better than other capitalists models?

Sure. That doesn't make it the end goal.

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 months ago

you put it in better words than i did.

[-] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 months ago

Yes, we must have a middle ground between having parasites and not having parasites. Thank you enlightened centrist.

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