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Honestly its rude to be invited by a country to meet their president who decided to respond to your criticisms of their administration only to not show up and go meet the opposition.

Being invided and then no showing shows complete disregard to basic diplomatic Etiquette since it was a mission to show solidarity against the embargo

Bonus socdems being cringe part 4.5: about another member that didnt show up to the presidential meeting

Deeply unserious people

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[-] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 18 points 5 months ago

Personally, I would say it's a completely reformist institution with about as much hopes for achieving socialism as the eurocommunists of the EU do.

I'm not particularly against people being a part of it or other organizations as long as they are gaining good experience and education that they can carry on with them in their life and other more professional parties should try chose to move on.

[-] cecinestpasunbot@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 months ago

Well that’s kind of the key isn’t it. DSA’s structure is going to be worthless in any sort of revolutionary crisis. However, communists in DSA have access to an audience of underdeveloped but sometimes open minded libs that are willing to listen and learn. They can help convert them into the kinds of organizers with good politics that will be necessary for any future party to succeed.

[-] jack@hexbear.net 1 points 5 months ago

Not having a vehicle to do effective political work makes converting those people pointless. You change people's minds by being the party that does effective work. Join a real org.

[-] cecinestpasunbot@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago

I disagree that’s it’s pointless. I think it’s a necessary precondition towards building an effective party that actually has a mass membership given the conditions of the US. However if people disagree and want to join PSL or CPUSA instead then they should!

[-] jack@hexbear.net 1 points 5 months ago

Why is the assumption that a mass movement can only be built through a less radical organization? Radicalism wins the legitimate that draws the masses. PSL's extremely strong line on Palestine, predating 10/7, has lead to an explosion in applications. Our uncompromising anti-imperialism is a strength at connecting with the masses.

And when you convert people within DSA (resisting internal forces to do so) what do they do then? The organization cripples its ability to take action through its structure.

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