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Jesus fuck. This whole infographic begs the question: "Do you consider Italians white?"
I'm not saying it's the pinnacle of intellectual achievement but they DID officially put that out: https://www.newsweek.com/smithsonian-race-guidelines-rational-thinking-hard-work-are-white-values-1518333
For all the Newsweek agitprop, it should be noted that "Whiteness" isn't clearly defined. Its a political definition that can include East Indians and exclude Poles and the Irish, depending on who is writing the law.
In a city like NY, with a very long and tawdry record on race politics, it can get confusing for a person wandering through a history exhibit to understand how and why certain ethnic cohorts gain or lose their "White" qualifier. So a museum establishing some kind of historically informed guideline to clarify can be helpful. Particularly when so much of their audience may be themselves or have relatives in their own living history who did not qualify as they do today.
I found it funny that when applying for jobs with the NYC government, Italians were not actually considered white. They were included in the affirmative action policies with other minorities. Definitely shows how the category of whiteness can evolve.
I mean, its amusing at first glance. But half my family is Italian. Quite a few of them have stories from parents/grandparents, etc about the genuinely nasty racist policies the city had towards Italians, Latinos, and Irish ex-pats - everything from redlining policies and employment blacklists to police gangs brutalizing relatives and government officials refusing to honor debts or outright stealing property unimpeded.
The social and legal justifications used are all common to the Smithsonian "Aspects of Whiteness" list above. Italians were generally described as a lazy, untrustworthy, dimwitted, and even sub-human population. They were accused of everything from vagrancy and slobbery to organized pedophilia. And that, unsurprisingly, had an impact on Italian immigrant community abilities to accrue wealth and status in the city and the surrounding areas.
That's much less true now (although curiously not entirely absent, depending on who you talk to). But the legacy of discrimination has a real downward impact on plenty of people's livelihoods to this day. If nothing else, there's a ton of NYC real estate in the hands of grandchildren of kleptocrats who profited by seizing it from folks lower on the racial totem pole.
Great points!
Citing "Forbes", a magazine owned and operated by a former Republican Presidential candidate and The Wall Street Journal, a Murdoch publication, in the center of the spectrum is... definitely one way to weight the scales. Bloomberg, a publication entirely by and for Wall Street, is center-left? Hell, the State Department's favorite news network, MSNBC, is in the same column as Jacobin and The Intercept?
Come on, dude.
I can name at least one
This is such a stretch, and you’re only doing it so you can be a bigot.
When bad things happen most people will look for a cause or explanation instead of just blaming black people and women.
Objection: that's entirely unproven and merely your opinion.
That's precisely what I'm doing. And I'm not even saying that is WAS black people or women, just that it looks rather likely.
I mean, it IS possible that perhaps, maybe, SOMETIMES they're at fault? Or is it always straight white men that are to blame?
It only “looks rather likely” from the perspective of a racist. I would look to an explanation that doesn’t require conspiracy theory levels of mental gymnastics.
I saw the maga crowd bitching about woke politics being to blame when the Key Bridge collapsed, but I didn’t think they genuinely believed something so fucking braindead. Apparently I was wrong!
Why don’t you prove your ingenius “women of color saboteurs” theory? Maybe with something a little more substantial then “you don’t know where those metal shavings came from, so it’s probably woke politics.” For all the evidence you’ve presented, those metal shavings may as well have spontaneously generated.
Also if you absolutely insist on keeping up the whole racism thing, you should expect people to be rather curt with you, if not outright hostile. Wild as it is, kind society doesn’t take kindly to racists.
Okay, then what's your explanation for this? And stay on topic please, the Key Bridge incident has nothing at all to do with Boeing.
that there isn’t a boogeyman to blame everything on, for starters
You’re either incredibly stupid or willfully ignorant. There’s no real functional difference though, both roads lead to the bad actor you are today.
Aw babe, you’re so cute when you can’t read.
I got you. I think you missed a part on your poster.